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Strasbourg - Grève de tram vendredi
by waltercolor＠orange.fr 18 Oct '17

18 Oct '17

Pour calmer les esprits, une info pour ceux qui seront à Strasbourg vendredi : Ville de Strasbourg | Trafic réduit vendredi 20 octobre sur les lignes de tram et de bus : http://bit.ly/2hPchq2 * En ce qui concerne les accusations contre certains membres : ne soyez pas naïfs et ne vous laissez pas piéger. Evitez de parler ou de vous justifier en public si on vous attaque. Des actions en justice étant en cours, n'oubliez pas le Miranda warning : 'Tout ce que vous direz pourra être retenu contre vous". * Pour le conseil scientifique : si vous estimez que le comité d'arbitrage de Wikipédia fait déjà le même boulot, pas la peine de s'embêter. Cependant, c'est un fait notoire qu'au stade actuel de l'encyclopédie libre Wikipédia, il traîne un certain nombre d'articles qui sont écrits n'importe comment et qu'il est très difficile de retravailler. C'est d'autant plus difficile d'intervenir si on est un scientifique mais qu'on n'a pas le minimum de code de conduite Wikipédia en tête. D'où la nécessité : - 1. d'analyser comment, dans l'état actuel on peut "retaper" un article mal écrit, ce qui est évidemment beaucoup plus compliqué que d'écrire un article "from scratch" (C'est comme en architecture : la rénovation c'est souvent plus compliqué que la construction. En tous cas c'est tout aussi cher). - 2. de faire des formations de "nouveaux" sur un mode adapté aux scientifiques, afins qu'ils soit plus nombreux à contribuer facilement à Wikipédia. Wala. waltercolor, de Strasbourg.

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Quelques idées pour reconstruire notre association
by Pierre-Selim 14 Oct '17

14 Oct '17

Bonjour à tous, voilà je voulais poser quelques bases de ce qui me parait nécessaire pour la reconstruction de notre association. Je pensais en parler pour l'AG, mais n'ayant pas de date, je préfère en parler tout de suite. De ce que j'ai compris les discussions avec la Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) avancent bien et on peut remercier le CA et la WMF pour cela. Ensuite, une association, c'est avant tout un groupe de personnes, et là je pense qu'il y a du boulot à la vue du nombre de personnes qui ont été blessées. Pour cela, il me parait indispensable que l'association présente ses excuses publiquement à ces personnes, j'en oublie probablement, mais je pense entre autre à : * User:Harmonia Amanda * User:Léna * User:Schiste * User:Jean-Frédéric * User:Agamitsudo * User:Nattes à chat * User:Anthere * User:Pyb * toutes les personnes ayant subies des pressions de la direction ces dernières années (depuis 2014) La prochaine AG ou même avant pour être pas mal :) Ensuite, il y a la gestion des fonds, j'ai souvent entendu parler de détournement de fonds. Je suppose que les mots vont trop loin, par contre il y a eu à mon avis des utilisations que je dirais non-souhaitable à l'avenir,et qu'il faut revoir rapidement nos politiques et délégations si on cherche un nouveau DE, en particulier je vise: * Revoir ce que l'on autorise pour les dépenses de réceptions (diminuer le nombre de restaurant parisiens ? :p) * Revoir le montant des per diems des déplacements qui sont beaucoup trop élevés à mon avis * Diminuer l'utilisation de uber (nous ne sommes pas des ministres ...) * Revoir la délégation de la présidente ou du président (30 000€) * Revoir la délégation de la directrice ou du directeur * Avoir une politique d'achat pour les dépenses de plus de X milliers d'euros Enfin, il y aura clairement besoin de revoir nos règles de gouvernance ou de contrôle qui ont clairement échoué. Je pense en particulier au fait que la directrice ou le directeur ne doit pas être dans tous les groupes concernant la gouvernance (comme le groupe RH, le groupe contrôle interne ou le comité d'audit). Au fait qu'il doit y avoir des parties entière des réunions CA sans salariés de la direction (pour pouvoir faire les évaluations). PS: J'attirerai l'attention de toutes les administratrices et tous les administrateurs (ou futurs) sur le fait que lorsqu'un président commence à reprocher à un administrateur son vote précédent pour justifier de ne plus l'écouter c'est qu'il y a un énorme problème! Cordialement, -- Pierre-Selim

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Strasbourg week-end prochain et transport
by Ludovic Péron 14 Oct '17

14 Oct '17

Bonjour, Je ne sais pas s'il existe une liste dédiée à l'évènement de Strasbourg, ni s'il existe une page sur meta pour discuter des solutions de covoiturages pour Strasbourg. Des idées ? Ludovic

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Strasbourg week-end prochain et transport - Sites infos SNCF
by waltercolor＠orange.fr 13 Oct '17

13 Oct '17

C'est là : http://www.sncf.com/fr/horaires-info-trafic Aussi : PREAVIS http://www.cestlagreve.fr/secteur-d-activite/transport/sncf-train/ GREVE https://www.voyages-sncf.com/train/greve PERTURBATIONS https://www.voyages-sncf.com/aide/perturbations-et-travaux waltercolor merci. on a juste acheté 11 billets pour le jeudi ;) Quelle est l'adresse pour connaitre la circulation des trains ? Pyb

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Re: [Wikimediafr] The other side of the crisis at WMFR
by waltercolor 13 Oct '17

13 Oct '17

A noter : Le long droit de réponse de Nathalie Martin publié le 12 octobre 2017 à la fin de l'article de Thierry Noisette du 20 juillet sur le site Rue 89 de l'Obs sur le WMFrGate. http://tempsreel.nouvelobs.com/rue89/rue89-nos-vies-connectees/20170718.OBS… Il y a un long fil de discussion sur Le Bistro/12 octobre 2017 sur ce sujet. waltercolor

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Fwd: Re: The other side of the crisis at WMFR
by Florence Devouard 12 Oct '17

12 Oct '17

pour info -------- Message transféré -------- Sujet : Re: The other side of the crisis at WMFR Date : Thu, 12 Oct 2017 12:39:06 +0200 De : Emeric Vallespi <emeric.vallespi-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w(a)public.gmane.org> Répondre à : Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l-RusutVdil2icGmH+5r0DM0B+6BGkLq7r(a)public.gmane.org> Pour : Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l-RusutVdil2icGmH+5r0DM0B+6BGkLq7r(a)public.gmane.org> Groupes de discussion : gmane.org.wikimedia.foundation Références : <CAOQ7Aqv-6J1yV13wnSV+FYvhvy_3kjS_7edHayqDt8_gHh96bg(a)mail.gmail.com> <CAJcMX2n=VR_Db9zEX6j=y-Ui7Crsm2QVWDyHeTvz7JhiegBV_A(a)mail.gmail.com> <CAL_9KJUvgaNtALc5CiOn6079mnn_oCFnWpxFz9N6GW1COt5USg(a)mail.gmail.com> <CAL_9KJU-gqS23pCA66x_sZjYkS6=DgMfsLg+x_+0_8kXPnrP7A(a)mail.gmail.com> Dear Maria, Dear all, The Wikimedia Foundation board of trustees, the executive and the legal management of the Wikimedia Foundation have been informed of Nathalie Martin's complaint against her former employer now member of your board, and then of the criminal complaint against this same person (facts from his time in Wikimédia France and other from his time in your Board). It would have been logical for a board of trustees member to gather her testimony. No one has sought to make contact with her. Why? At the very least, the Wikimedia Foundation board of trustees could have requested a copy of the complaint, as well as the various testimonies, so that they could study them and make their opinion. We had no solicitation. Why? From what I see, the Wikimedia Foundation has done everything to stifle the problem. Here is the only initiative WMF has taken: paid "independent lawyers" (a concept unknown to me…) to "question Christophe". He responded, to the general surprise, that there was no problem. Do you really feel that this is a serious investigation? Honestly? Why did not these lawyers also hear Nathalie? Why did these lawyers not ask questions to the Wikimédia France Board of trustees members? Only with the testimony of the defendant himself, the Wikimedia Foundation today states that there is no problem. ... During the site visit, Nathalie proposed to the Wikimedia Foundation representatives to organize a confrontation. Not only did she have a flat denial, but, moreover, it was replied that it must not be addressed. Why did the Wikimedia Foundation not accede to this request for confrontation? Not to know the truth which can be too embarrassing to assume? We have a movement employee who brilliantly held management responsibilities for 4 years (great longevity for an Executive Director…) who asked for help. And what is the answer of the movement, of the Wikimedia Foundation? Nothing. Nothing was undertaken to give her any kind of listening or help. Marie-Alice Mathis, who courageously expressed disapproval of the sexist harassment of Nathalie, was also harassed by community members. Nathalie and Marie-Alice suffered health damages and had medical leaves issued by real general practitioners. The Wikimedia Foundation was informed and what did you do? Nothing, or worst: two messages from your staff legitimizing the harassment and one from a member of your board who publicly stated against Wikimédia France without any prior contact with us. What kind of help or support did you offer to Marie-Alice? The outcome of the complaints is not even the issue at this stage and this is not my point (I’m not a judge as you or other community member think they are). The real problem is that today a man in the movement, if he has power position, can do absolutely everything he wants without any control. The problem is, despite all the empty values you’re communicating on, you legitimize whatever the community does. Because the community is the measure of all things. No objective process is foreseen to protect women (and more generally, people) or at least to hear them. Do you find this normal for a movement that advocates inclusiveness and respect? I’ve read an ardent defender of epicene style of writing who is accusing of lying other women because of their private then public declarations. Having no clue of what is in the procedure. Thank you for enlightening me about true fight with feminism. I’m glad that « We take all allegations of harassment seriously », but I can not endorse this functioning which goes against legality and simply against human values. N.B: English is not my native language, may you be as tolerant of my selected words or sentences construction as with harassing behavior. Thanks for your understanding. Regards, -- Emeric Vallespi > On 11 Oct 2017, at 19:54, María Sefidari <kewlshrink(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Dear all, > > > We would like to specifically address the allegations related to harassment > in this thread’s original email. We take all allegations of harassment > seriously. Earlier this year, the Board of Trustees was informed that > allegations of harassment had been made against the Wikimedia Foundation > Board Chair dating back to his time as chair of Wikimédia France. We > immediately directed the Foundation to investigate. The Foundation employed > independent, external experts and conducted an investigation. Based on the > information presented, the investigation found no support for the > allegations. That conclusion was conveyed to the Wikimedia Foundation Board > as well as the chair of Wikimédia France. > > The Wikimedia Foundation remains committed to independent investigation if > presented with new information. Absent such information, we consider the > allegations to be without merit. > > > On behalf of the Board, > > > María Sefidari > > El 8 oct. 2017 5:20, "John Erling Blad" <jeblad(a)gmail.com> escribió: > > When I first saw the posts I thought it would probably be more opinions to > them than the very clear blame-game that were going on. Having a partly > anonymous community and a chapter that only represents some of the users > are an invitation to fierce battles. > > Whatever going on at WMFR, I believe it is time for reevaluating the role > of WMF in this. I'm wondering if there should be a new board for WMF, > unless they get a new chair themselves asap. Reorganize, solve the > problems, and move on. > > No, I do not know any of the people involved. > > John Erling Blad > /jeblad > > On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 3:11 PM, Marie-Alice Mathis < > mariealice.gariel(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hello all, >> >> I haven’t had a real opportunity to introduce myself: I am Marie-Alice >> Mathis, 32, a now ex-member of the Board of Wikimédia France. >> >> The transition with the newly elected members of the Board is now complete >> and I gladly step down to get away from the violence, exhaustion and >> frustration of these past few months. >> >> I was a Board candidate because after completing my PhD I finally had more >> time to contribute to the projects and serve the community through the >> French chapter: after watching my husband Rémi Mathis do it for years I > had >> a pretty good idea of what it meant. I did not know our ED Nathalie Martin >> or our chair Émeric Vallespi before working with them, and now that I have >> I can vouch for their hard work and attachment to the movement’s values. >> >> Today, I have lost friends or people I thought were friends because I >> defended Nathalie and Émeric in good faith during the smear campaign based >> on the community’s assumption that they were the source and cause of all >> the chapter’s problems, real or perceived. Although I have worked with > them >> closely for a year, I have been repeatedly informed that I’ve been >> manipulated by Nathalie from the start and should not have blindly > believed >> everything Émeric was saying. I’ve been personally attacked on WMF sites, >> email lists, and social media for weeks, my every word scrutinised, >> questioned and mocked assuming I was either ignorant or lying. I’ve been >> told by so-called feminists who were endorsing a particularly sexist rant >> against me to “stop making inflammatory comments”. I’ve been called a >> conspiracy theorist because I questioned the role of our former chair >> Christophe Henner, now chair of the Board at the WMF, in the threats to >> withdraw our chapter agreement and the cutting of half our FDC funding. >> People close to Christophe who have resigned from the WMFR Board early in >> the crisis rather than take responsibility for their mistakes now call >> themselves victims and whistleblowers. The WMF, who is perfectly aware of >> the charges of sexual harassment filed by Nathalie against Christophe for >> facts dating back to when he was her boss at Wikimédia France, is >> pretending WMFR leadership has used the threat of legal action to >> intimidate chapter members and silence opposition. >> >> Some unfounded allegations have been made on this very list by prominent >> members of the community (and what is a newbie’s word worth in that case, >> right?): from extremely serious accusations of misuse of chapter funds for >> personal gain (that strangely enough never made it to the French justice >> system despite a so-called “rather convincing rationale”), to gratuitous >> ones that Nathalie was making the Board’s decisions for us and dictating >> our communication (I am old enough to write my own emails, thank you very >> much), to ever vague ones of “quite generous expenses reimbursement“. None >> of this has been supported by proof or tangible facts, but the goal of >> spreading distrust and dissent in the chapter and the wider community has >> clearly been reached. Even now that Nathalie has left her position and the >> Board has resigned, some are still defaming her in the French media in the >> hopes of winning the stupid argument of who were the bad guys in the >> crisis. >> >> I am also extremely disappointed that no one from this list asked us (the >> Board) what was happening when these allegations were made, with only a >> handful of people suggesting to wait before all the facts were known. >> Instead, you took for granted the very short and extremely biased English >> summaries of the Board’s communications (which were instantly circulated > on >> this list without our consent and in violation of our chapter’s bylaws), >> and joined in the chorus of outrage, condemnation and verbal abuse. >> >> But worse to me than all this, I am actually terrified at how easily the >> Wikimedia community can turn on a person, with no regard whatsoever for >> decency or legality, when it has made up its mind about who has no place >> there. I have personally experienced what it means to disagree with this >> angry mob: questioning the dominant opinion or calling out individuals’ >> toxic behaviour makes you in turn acceptable collateral damage and a “fair >> game” target for harassment. >> >> Speaking of this, the movement as a whole needs to address the issue of >> staff-volunteers relations exemplified by the rapid turnover of executive >> staff across chapters. Nathalie stayed at WMFR an almost record breaking 4 >> years, but at what cost? I’m being extremely serious in adding that this >> conversation needs to take place before something irreversible happens as > a >> result of harmful group behaviour within the community. >> >> Sincerely, >> Marie-Alice Mathis // AlienSpoon >> >> >> PS: for your information about my position regarding the WMF’s role in > this >> crisis and their recent unilaterally added conditions [ >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grant_expectations_for_ >> Wikimedia_France_-_2017-2018] >> for payment of our FDC-attributed grant, I attach my email to Katy Love >> from Sept 20. >> >> Katy, (Cc WMFr Board and Rémi) >> >> In the WMF "Grant expectations" document sent to the Board of WMFr, you >> mention as a condition for APG funds payment that I do not resign from my >> position on the Board until the governance review is complete, and that > any >> Board member planning to resign must report and justify it to WMF. >> >> You also mention that you retain the right to cease funding WMFr if you >> consider that legal threats are being used inappropriately to stifle civil >> and appropriate participation in the chapter. Moreover, you condition >> payment to being informed if the chapter leadership feels that legal > action >> is appropriate to take against current or former board members or staff. >> >> Let me be clear: these conditions are outrageous and unacceptable. >> >> First of all, my legitimacy as a Board member of WMFr does not come from >> any commitment to WMF but from being democratically elected by French >> chapter members. WMF has no say in who stays or not on the Board, and >> trying to intervene on such governance issues is, again, putting both >> organisations at risk of being legally recognised as co-employers. >> >> Second, as a (volunteer) Board member I have been subjected to harassment, >> sexist abuse, and unjustified allegations of misconduct by community >> members, that have impacted my health and mental well being to the point >> where I was no longer able to do my (paid) job in cancer patient care and >> my GP put me on medical leave. A large volume of this abuse took place on >> WMF property (fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipédia:Le_Bistro > <http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Le_Bistro> >> <http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Le_Bistro> >> <http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Le_Bistro> and the >> WMF-hosted, >> publicly archived mailing lists wikimedia-l and wikimediafr). >> You personally and on behalf of WMF encouraged French community members to >> challenge chapter leadership citing governance issues, without a word >> mentioning the violence suffered by the Board and executive staff at the >> hands of some French members during this crisis. Worse, you presented the >> Board's email condemning the harassment as inaccurate and problematic, >> which made the community feel all the more legitimate in their harmful >> attacks. >> When I reported the abuse in person to WMF employees during the site visit >> you personally empathised with my distress at the time, and thanked me for >> being honest about how your email to the wikimediafr list had made our >> already precarious situation untenable. And then you did nothing. >> My husband Rémi, who witnessed first hand the effects of the harassment on >> my health, called on you to release the site visit report so the > misconduct >> allegations would stop. You didn't, until 3 days before our General >> Assembly (where the allegations were repeated), on the same day you asked >> that I stay on as a Board member. Even your choice of words in the "Grant >> expectations" document is telling: "egregious incivility" is not what we >> are talking about here. We are talking about unacceptable and illegal >> defamation and harassment with serious real life consequences. >> Rémi also called on the wikimedia-l list to stop the unfounded > allegations, >> and was attacked in turn because of "his conflict of interest as the >> husband of a Board member". He also reported the abuse to the WMF >> governance committee, to the Suport and Safety team and mentioned it to >> Christophe Henner and Katherine Maher on Twitter, to no avail. To this day >> we haven't received any support or acknowledgement whatsoever. All the >> while the sexist abuse continues, and French editor MrButler was moderated >> on the wikimediafr maling list for his continued personal attacks against >> me. This is exactly the kind of behaviour the Board's email to the members >> was calling out, yet you continue to deliberately ignore it and refuse to >> do anything about it. >> >> Finally, your asking to be informed of any legal action against chapter >> members or staff is yet another example of the WMF taking sides while >> posing as a neutral arbitrator. Calling someone out on their toxic >> behaviour or actually filing a complaint are no legal threats or >> intimidation, but by claiming they are you are trying to silence victims > by >> denying them their basic rights to legal protection. At least two >> complaints have been filed against community members and more may be >> coming, including on my behalf. You will not be informed because it is not >> for WMF to decide whether they are justified or frivolous. >> >> For all these reasons I am deeply shocked and hurt by your payment >> conditions and will not abide by the terms of your grant expectations. > With >> most of WMFr funding hanging in the balance your unilaterally revised >> conditions amount to blackmail but I will not stay in harm's way at the >> request of the organisation who has failed me in every aspect when I came >> in good faith to work for the community. I will resign when I see fit to >> protect my health, and continue to speak honestly and publicly about your >> actions and empty words of safety and inclusivity. >> >> Sincerely, >> Marie-Alice Mathis, vice chair of WMFr >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ >> wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ >> wiki/Wikimedia-l >> New messages to: Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >> <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>

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Fwd: Re: The other side of the crisis at WMFR
by Florence Devouard 11 Oct '17

11 Oct '17

Pour votre information Florence -------- Message transféré -------- Sujet : Re: The other side of the crisis at WMFR Date : Wed, 11 Oct 2017 19:54:08 +0200 De : María Sefidari <kewlshrink-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w(a)public.gmane.org> Répondre à : Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l-RusutVdil2icGmH+5r0DM0B+6BGkLq7r(a)public.gmane.org> Pour : Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l-RusutVdil2icGmH+5r0DM0B+6BGkLq7r(a)public.gmane.org> Groupes de discussion : gmane.org.wikimedia.foundation Références : <CAOQ7Aqv-6J1yV13wnSV+FYvhvy_3kjS_7edHayqDt8_gHh96bg(a)mail.gmail.com> <CAJcMX2n=VR_Db9zEX6j=y-Ui7Crsm2QVWDyHeTvz7JhiegBV_A(a)mail.gmail.com> <CAL_9KJUvgaNtALc5CiOn6079mnn_oCFnWpxFz9N6GW1COt5USg(a)mail.gmail.com> Dear all, We would like to specifically address the allegations related to harassment in this thread’s original email. We take all allegations of harassment seriously. Earlier this year, the Board of Trustees was informed that allegations of harassment had been made against the Wikimedia Foundation Board Chair dating back to his time as chair of Wikimédia France. We immediately directed the Foundation to investigate. The Foundation employed independent, external experts and conducted an investigation. Based on the information presented, the investigation found no support for the allegations. That conclusion was conveyed to the Wikimedia Foundation Board as well as the chair of Wikimédia France. The Wikimedia Foundation remains committed to independent investigation if presented with new information. Absent such information, we consider the allegations to be without merit. On behalf of the Board, María Sefidari El 8 oct. 2017 5:20, "John Erling Blad" <jeblad(a)gmail.com> escribió: When I first saw the posts I thought it would probably be more opinions to them than the very clear blame-game that were going on. Having a partly anonymous community and a chapter that only represents some of the users are an invitation to fierce battles. Whatever going on at WMFR, I believe it is time for reevaluating the role of WMF in this. I'm wondering if there should be a new board for WMF, unless they get a new chair themselves asap. Reorganize, solve the problems, and move on. No, I do not know any of the people involved. John Erling Blad /jeblad On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 3:11 PM, Marie-Alice Mathis < mariealice.gariel(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hello all, > > I haven’t had a real opportunity to introduce myself: I am Marie-Alice > Mathis, 32, a now ex-member of the Board of Wikimédia France. > > The transition with the newly elected members of the Board is now complete > and I gladly step down to get away from the violence, exhaustion and > frustration of these past few months. > > I was a Board candidate because after completing my PhD I finally had more > time to contribute to the projects and serve the community through the > French chapter: after watching my husband Rémi Mathis do it for years I had > a pretty good idea of what it meant. I did not know our ED Nathalie Martin > or our chair Émeric Vallespi before working with them, and now that I have > I can vouch for their hard work and attachment to the movement’s values. > > Today, I have lost friends or people I thought were friends because I > defended Nathalie and Émeric in good faith during the smear campaign based > on the community’s assumption that they were the source and cause of all > the chapter’s problems, real or perceived. Although I have worked with them > closely for a year, I have been repeatedly informed that I’ve been > manipulated by Nathalie from the start and should not have blindly believed > everything Émeric was saying. I’ve been personally attacked on WMF sites, > email lists, and social media for weeks, my every word scrutinised, > questioned and mocked assuming I was either ignorant or lying. I’ve been > told by so-called feminists who were endorsing a particularly sexist rant > against me to “stop making inflammatory comments”. I’ve been called a > conspiracy theorist because I questioned the role of our former chair > Christophe Henner, now chair of the Board at the WMF, in the threats to > withdraw our chapter agreement and the cutting of half our FDC funding. > People close to Christophe who have resigned from the WMFR Board early in > the crisis rather than take responsibility for their mistakes now call > themselves victims and whistleblowers. The WMF, who is perfectly aware of > the charges of sexual harassment filed by Nathalie against Christophe for > facts dating back to when he was her boss at Wikimédia France, is > pretending WMFR leadership has used the threat of legal action to > intimidate chapter members and silence opposition. > > Some unfounded allegations have been made on this very list by prominent > members of the community (and what is a newbie’s word worth in that case, > right?): from extremely serious accusations of misuse of chapter funds for > personal gain (that strangely enough never made it to the French justice > system despite a so-called “rather convincing rationale”), to gratuitous > ones that Nathalie was making the Board’s decisions for us and dictating > our communication (I am old enough to write my own emails, thank you very > much), to ever vague ones of “quite generous expenses reimbursement“. None > of this has been supported by proof or tangible facts, but the goal of > spreading distrust and dissent in the chapter and the wider community has > clearly been reached. Even now that Nathalie has left her position and the > Board has resigned, some are still defaming her in the French media in the > hopes of winning the stupid argument of who were the bad guys in the > crisis. > > I am also extremely disappointed that no one from this list asked us (the > Board) what was happening when these allegations were made, with only a > handful of people suggesting to wait before all the facts were known. > Instead, you took for granted the very short and extremely biased English > summaries of the Board’s communications (which were instantly circulated on > this list without our consent and in violation of our chapter’s bylaws), > and joined in the chorus of outrage, condemnation and verbal abuse. > > But worse to me than all this, I am actually terrified at how easily the > Wikimedia community can turn on a person, with no regard whatsoever for > decency or legality, when it has made up its mind about who has no place > there. I have personally experienced what it means to disagree with this > angry mob: questioning the dominant opinion or calling out individuals’ > toxic behaviour makes you in turn acceptable collateral damage and a “fair > game” target for harassment. > > Speaking of this, the movement as a whole needs to address the issue of > staff-volunteers relations exemplified by the rapid turnover of executive > staff across chapters. Nathalie stayed at WMFR an almost record breaking 4 > years, but at what cost? I’m being extremely serious in adding that this > conversation needs to take place before something irreversible happens as a > result of harmful group behaviour within the community. > > Sincerely, > Marie-Alice Mathis // AlienSpoon > > > PS: for your information about my position regarding the WMF’s role in this > crisis and their recent unilaterally added conditions [ > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grant_expectations_for_ > Wikimedia_France_-_2017-2018] > for payment of our FDC-attributed grant, I attach my email to Katy Love > from Sept 20. > > Katy, (Cc WMFr Board and Rémi) > > In the WMF "Grant expectations" document sent to the Board of WMFr, you > mention as a condition for APG funds payment that I do not resign from my > position on the Board until the governance review is complete, and that any > Board member planning to resign must report and justify it to WMF. > > You also mention that you retain the right to cease funding WMFr if you > consider that legal threats are being used inappropriately to stifle civil > and appropriate participation in the chapter. Moreover, you condition > payment to being informed if the chapter leadership feels that legal action > is appropriate to take against current or former board members or staff. > > Let me be clear: these conditions are outrageous and unacceptable. > > First of all, my legitimacy as a Board member of WMFr does not come from > any commitment to WMF but from being democratically elected by French > chapter members. WMF has no say in who stays or not on the Board, and > trying to intervene on such governance issues is, again, putting both > organisations at risk of being legally recognised as co-employers. > > Second, as a (volunteer) Board member I have been subjected to harassment, > sexist abuse, and unjustified allegations of misconduct by community > members, that have impacted my health and mental well being to the point > where I was no longer able to do my (paid) job in cancer patient care and > my GP put me on medical leave. A large volume of this abuse took place on > WMF property (fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipédia:Le_Bistro <http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Le_Bistro> > <http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Le_Bistro> > <http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Le_Bistro> and the > WMF-hosted, > publicly archived mailing lists wikimedia-l and wikimediafr). > You personally and on behalf of WMF encouraged French community members to > challenge chapter leadership citing governance issues, without a word > mentioning the violence suffered by the Board and executive staff at the > hands of some French members during this crisis. Worse, you presented the > Board's email condemning the harassment as inaccurate and problematic, > which made the community feel all the more legitimate in their harmful > attacks. > When I reported the abuse in person to WMF employees during the site visit > you personally empathised with my distress at the time, and thanked me for > being honest about how your email to the wikimediafr list had made our > already precarious situation untenable. And then you did nothing. > My husband Rémi, who witnessed first hand the effects of the harassment on > my health, called on you to release the site visit report so the misconduct > allegations would stop. You didn't, until 3 days before our General > Assembly (where the allegations were repeated), on the same day you asked > that I stay on as a Board member. Even your choice of words in the "Grant > expectations" document is telling: "egregious incivility" is not what we > are talking about here. We are talking about unacceptable and illegal > defamation and harassment with serious real life consequences. > Rémi also called on the wikimedia-l list to stop the unfounded allegations, > and was attacked in turn because of "his conflict of interest as the > husband of a Board member". He also reported the abuse to the WMF > governance committee, to the Suport and Safety team and mentioned it to > Christophe Henner and Katherine Maher on Twitter, to no avail. To this day > we haven't received any support or acknowledgement whatsoever. All the > while the sexist abuse continues, and French editor MrButler was moderated > on the wikimediafr maling list for his continued personal attacks against > me. This is exactly the kind of behaviour the Board's email to the members > was calling out, yet you continue to deliberately ignore it and refuse to > do anything about it. > > Finally, your asking to be informed of any legal action against chapter > members or staff is yet another example of the WMF taking sides while > posing as a neutral arbitrator. Calling someone out on their toxic > behaviour or actually filing a complaint are no legal threats or > intimidation, but by claiming they are you are trying to silence victims by > denying them their basic rights to legal protection. At least two > complaints have been filed against community members and more may be > coming, including on my behalf. You will not be informed because it is not > for WMF to decide whether they are justified or frivolous. > > For all these reasons I am deeply shocked and hurt by your payment > conditions and will not abide by the terms of your grant expectations. With > most of WMFr funding hanging in the balance your unilaterally revised > conditions amount to blackmail but I will not stay in harm's way at the > request of the organisation who has failed me in every aspect when I came > in good faith to work for the community. I will resign when I see fit to > protect my health, and continue to speak honestly and publicly about your > actions and empty words of safety and inclusivity. > > Sincerely, > Marie-Alice Mathis, vice chair of WMFr > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>

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Bénévoles pour la WikiConvention
by Pierre-Yves Beaudouin 10 Oct '17

10 Oct '17

Bonjour, Pour celles et ceux qui ont la chance de se rendre à Strasbourg pour la WikiConvention, il faudrait quelques bénévoles afin que l'événement se passe dans les meilleurs conditions. Il faudrait un bénévole ("ange") par session afin de s'assurer que tout ce passe bien. Vous trouverez toutes les informations nécessaires sur meta. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConvention_francophone/2017/B%C3%A9n%C3… Un grand merci et à très vite à Strasbourg Pyb

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Re: [Wikimediafr] Fwd: Important : report de l'assemblée générale
by Charlotte Matoussowsky 30 Sep '17

30 Sep '17

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Fwd: Important : report de l'assemblée générale
by Wikinade 30 Sep '17

30 Sep '17

Bonjour à tous, Contretemps regrettable. Certains d'entre vous prévoyaient d'assister à l'AG du 21 octobre prochain à Strasbourg. Je vous fais donc suivre ce courrier qui vient d'être adressé aux membres de Wikimédia France. L'AG est reportée. Surtout, que ça ne gâche pas la fête des rencontres à la WikiConvention francophone ! Le programme, les participants, les échanges entre wikimédiens venus de la francophonie et d'ailleurs, la visite de Strasbourg, tout cela annonce un bel événement. J'y serai, au plaisir de vous y voir :) Wikinade > ---------- Message transféré ---------- > De : Wikimédia France <secretaire(a)wikimedia.fr> > Date : 30 septembre 2017 à 15:25 > Objet : Important : report de l'assemblée générale > > > > > > Chères et chers membres, > > Le trésorier et le président se sont entretenus hier avec le commissaire aux comptes pour faire le point sur les dossiers en cours. Il s'agissait de la première prise de contact entre le nouveau bureau du Conseil d'administration et le commissaire aux comptes. > > Il nous a fallu constater que l'établissement des états financiers et fiscaux avait pris du retard, et que clore les comptes à temps pour l'assemblée générale prévue le 21 octobre 2017 ne serait vraisemblablement pas possible. Le commissaire aux comptes nous a vivement conseillé de reporter l'assemblée générale. Nous avons donc pris la décision de suivre son conseil et de la reporter à une date ultérieure, probablement fin novembre. > > Nous allons dès à présent nous pencher sur les dysfonctionnements à l'origine de ce retard. Nous vous présentons à tous nos excuses, plus particulièrement encore aux candidats et aux volontaires à l'assessorat. Pour l'heure, ni la date ni les modalités de la prochaine assemblée générale ne sont arrêtées, mais nous avons souhaité vous avertir le plus tôt possible. Nous vous tiendrons informés au fur et à mesure des implications de ce report. > > Pour ceux d'entre vous qui se rendent à la WikiConvention (19-21 octobre à Strasbourg) et ceux qui avaient déjà planifié leur venue à l'AG, nous réfléchissons à un programme alternatif pour le week-end : maintien des ateliers, activités culturelles et sportives, sortie photo… > > Nous vous remercions de votre compréhension. > > Cordialement, > > Le Conseil d'administration > > > WIKIMÉDIA FRANCE > 40 rue de Cléry > 75002 Paris > France > www.wikimedia.fr > > > Je ne souhaite plus être contacté par Wikimédia France >

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