I am ok with someone more deserving going. Let me know when and how to deregister, once they have registered.
Abhay
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Message: 4 Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2019 17:57:17 -0700 From: Neal McBurnett neal@bcn.boulder.co.us
Thank you, Abhay, for entering your candidate info, and for registering, in case the deadline was today.
Sorry I wasn't back at my email until just now.
I still don't know what the deadline is. I and others have asked Cornelius, but haven't heard back.
I visited the registration page just now, and it is still functioning, so either the deadline is tomorrow, or they're accepting late registrations, or they're misleading us....
I'm fine with either Abhay or Isarra representing us. And I still have interest in going myself, but I can defer to folks who are more engaged....
Perhaps we can wait to hear more about the deadline, and whether anyone else is out-of-the-loop but interested.
Neal McBurnett http://neal.mcburnett.org/
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I think I would really prefer we send Neal. I don't feel comfortable with someone representing the group who would put us in the position to potentially have to deregister them when we have clear precedent from previous years that the ambiguous deadline does allow people to register later. (It would also be very strange if they did decide to enforce it more strictly this year, as it would also impact quite a few other groups for no good reason.) This on top of your tendency to start things, or say you will do things, and then fail to follow through on them, which was why I changed my mind about being considered myself, just seems like too much too me.
Bear in mind Neal makes a lot of sense as a representative to send regardless - even if it hadn't been awhile since we've sent him, he's been a consistently active fixture in our local community with a long history of organising and assisting with events even before the group was formally created, and has been one of the main people not just encouraging others, but also doing things himself, writing the actual body for our reports, setting things up, following through to the end.
-I
On 16/12/2019 15:02, Abhay Natu wrote:
I am ok with someone more deserving going. Let me know when and how to deregister, once they have registered.
Abhay
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Whatever the case, Neal, could you please add yourself to the page onwiki so we can all weigh in officially, one way or the other? Whoever we send could probably use some kind of demonstrable consensus at this point.
-I
On 16/12/2019 19:49, Isarra Yos wrote:
I think I would really prefer we send Neal. I don't feel comfortable with someone representing the group who would put us in the position to potentially have to deregister them when we have clear precedent from previous years that the ambiguous deadline does allow people to register later. (It would also be very strange if they did decide to enforce it more strictly this year, as it would also impact quite a few other groups for no good reason.) This on top of your tendency to start things, or say you will do things, and then fail to follow through on them, which was why I changed my mind about being considered myself, just seems like too much too me.
Bear in mind Neal makes a lot of sense as a representative to send regardless - even if it hadn't been awhile since we've sent him, he's been a consistently active fixture in our local community with a long history of organising and assisting with events even before the group was formally created, and has been one of the main people not just encouraging others, but also doing things himself, writing the actual body for our reports, setting things up, following through to the end.
-I
On 16/12/2019 15:02, Abhay Natu wrote:
I am ok with someone more deserving going. Let me know when and how to deregister, once they have registered.
Abhay
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Thank you very much, Isarra, for the vote of confidence. But the more I look into it, the more I see I've got too much going on to make it work for me to go this year.
In turn, I want to give a vote of confidence to Abhay. The main challenge that Wikimedia faces is meeting a hugely diverse, worldwide demand for information. I think Abhay, who has made huge contributions to some of the many Wikipedias relevant to India, has more experience and sense for how to meet that challenge than most of us in Colorado.
He also was almost solely responsible for getting a significant grant for Colorado from the Wikimedia Foundation, to pay expenses for our very successful last event in Boulder.
Given the widespread continuing uncertainty about deadlines, I'm very glad he applied to ensure that the team would have a delegate. But I'm glad to hear that they may not be as strict about it as they suggest.
I think Abhay will do a fine job of representing us, and look forward to us all doing a better job of following up on what he brings back from the summit.
Cheers,
-Neal
On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 08:00:52PM +0000, Isarra Yos wrote:
Whatever the case, Neal, could you please add yourself to the page onwiki so we can all weigh in officially, one way or the other? Whoever we send could probably use some kind of demonstrable consensus at this point.
-I
On 16/12/2019 19:49, Isarra Yos wrote:
I think I would really prefer we send Neal. I don't feel comfortable with someone representing the group who would put us in the position to potentially have to deregister them when we have clear precedent from previous years that the ambiguous deadline does allow people to register later. (It would also be very strange if they did decide to enforce it more strictly this year, as it would also impact quite a few other groups for no good reason.) This on top of your tendency to start things, or say you will do things, and then fail to follow through on them, which was why I changed my mind about being considered myself, just seems like too much too me. Bear in mind Neal makes a lot of sense as a representative to send regardless - even if it hadn't been awhile since we've sent him, he's been a consistently active fixture in our local community with a long history of organising and assisting with events even before the group was formally created, and has been one of the main people not just encouraging others, but also doing things himself, writing the actual body for our reports, setting things up, following through to the end. -I On 16/12/2019 15:02, Abhay Natu wrote: I am ok with someone more deserving going. Let me know when and how to deregister, once they have registered. Abhay On Mon, Dec 16, 2019, 5:00 AM <wikimedia-us-co-request@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote: Send Wikimedia-US-CO mailing list submissions to wikimedia-us-co@lists.wikimedia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-us-co or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to wikimedia-us-co-request@lists.wikimedia.org You can reach the person managing the list at wikimedia-us-co-owner@lists.wikimedia.org Message: 4 Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2019 17:57:17 -0700 From: Neal McBurnett <neal@bcn.boulder.co.us> Thank you, Abhay, for entering your candidate info, and for registering, in case the deadline was today. Sorry I wasn't back at my email until just now. I still don't know what the deadline is. I and others have asked Cornelius, but haven't heard back. I visited the registration page just now, and it is still functioning, so either the deadline is tomorrow, or they're accepting late registrations, or they're misleading us.... I'm fine with either Abhay or Isarra representing us. And I still have interest in going myself, but I can defer to folks who are more engaged.... Perhaps we can wait to hear more about the deadline, and whether anyone else is out-of-the-loop but interested. Neal McBurnett http://neal.mcburnett.org/
Okay.
I look forward to any follow up.
-I
On 16/12/2019 22:41, Neal McBurnett wrote:
Thank you very much, Isarra, for the vote of confidence. But the more I look into it, the more I see I've got too much going on to make it work for me to go this year.
In turn, I want to give a vote of confidence to Abhay. The main challenge that Wikimedia faces is meeting a hugely diverse, worldwide demand for information. I think Abhay, who has made huge contributions to some of the many Wikipedias relevant to India, has more experience and sense for how to meet that challenge than most of us in Colorado.
He also was almost solely responsible for getting a significant grant for Colorado from the Wikimedia Foundation, to pay expenses for our very successful last event in Boulder.
Given the widespread continuing uncertainty about deadlines, I'm very glad he applied to ensure that the team would have a delegate. But I'm glad to hear that they may not be as strict about it as they suggest.
I think Abhay will do a fine job of representing us, and look forward to us all doing a better job of following up on what he brings back from the summit.
Cheers,
-Neal
On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 08:00:52PM +0000, Isarra Yos wrote:
Whatever the case, Neal, could you please add yourself to the page onwiki so we can all weigh in officially, one way or the other? Whoever we send could probably use some kind of demonstrable consensus at this point.
-I
On 16/12/2019 19:49, Isarra Yos wrote:
I think I would really prefer we send Neal. I don't feel comfortable with someone representing the group who would put us in the position to potentially have to deregister them when we have clear precedent from previous years that the ambiguous deadline does allow people to register later. (It would also be very strange if they did decide to enforce it more strictly this year, as it would also impact quite a few other groups for no good reason.) This on top of your tendency to start things, or say you will do things, and then fail to follow through on them, which was why I changed my mind about being considered myself, just seems like too much too me. Bear in mind Neal makes a lot of sense as a representative to send regardless - even if it hadn't been awhile since we've sent him, he's been a consistently active fixture in our local community with a long history of organising and assisting with events even before the group was formally created, and has been one of the main people not just encouraging others, but also doing things himself, writing the actual body for our reports, setting things up, following through to the end. -I On 16/12/2019 15:02, Abhay Natu wrote: I am ok with someone more deserving going. Let me know when and how to deregister, once they have registered. Abhay On Mon, Dec 16, 2019, 5:00 AM <wikimedia-us-co-request@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote: Send Wikimedia-US-CO mailing list submissions to wikimedia-us-co@lists.wikimedia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-us-co or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to wikimedia-us-co-request@lists.wikimedia.org You can reach the person managing the list at wikimedia-us-co-owner@lists.wikimedia.org Message: 4 Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2019 17:57:17 -0700 From: Neal McBurnett <neal@bcn.boulder.co.us> Thank you, Abhay, for entering your candidate info, and for registering, in case the deadline was today. Sorry I wasn't back at my email until just now. I still don't know what the deadline is. I and others have asked Cornelius, but haven't heard back. I visited the registration page just now, and it is still functioning, so either the deadline is tomorrow, or they're accepting late registrations, or they're misleading us.... I'm fine with either Abhay or Isarra representing us. And I still have interest in going myself, but I can defer to folks who are more engaged.... Perhaps we can wait to hear more about the deadline, and whether anyone else is out-of-the-loop but interested. Neal McBurnett http://neal.mcburnett.org/
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