Any volunteers?
Cheers, Gaurav
Typed on a tiny keyboard.
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From: Nicole Ebber nicole.ebber@wikimedia.de Date: April 18, 2017 at 9:57:30 PM EDT To: Nicole Ebber nicole.ebber@wikimedia.de Subject: Your User Group's movement strategy conversations
Greetings,
I hope this email finds you well. As we are ending cycle 1 of the movement strategy process conversation today, I am currently looking into the list of organized groups on Meta and reaching out to groups we haven’t heard back from.[1]
I have noticed that your User Group has not designated a discussion coordinator yet, and wanted to see if there is any information that you are missing right now, or any support you need. Of course, I would also like to hear from you if you decide not to participate right now. Every feedback will help us to improve and iterate on the ongoing process.
Looking forward to hearing from you, Nicole
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2017/Outreach/Li...
-- Nicole Ebber Adviser International Relations Movement Strategy Track Lead: Organized Groups
Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207.
Technically I think this might be you, from our history thus far. Which makes you a bit like most of the wikimedia dc board - most of them aren't actually in DC anymore, either.
Or something. Do they ever define anywhere exactly what a discussion coordinator actually is/does?
-I
On 19/04/17 01:59, Gaurav Vaidya wrote:
Any volunteers?
Cheers, Gaurav
Typed on a tiny keyboard.
Begin forwarded message:
*From:* Nicole Ebber <nicole.ebber@wikimedia.de mailto:nicole.ebber@wikimedia.de> *Date:* April 18, 2017 at 9:57:30 PM EDT *To:* Nicole Ebber <nicole.ebber@wikimedia.de mailto:nicole.ebber@wikimedia.de> *Subject:* *Your User Group's movement strategy conversations*
Greetings,
I hope this email finds you well. As we are ending cycle 1 of the movement strategy process conversation today, I am currently looking into the list of organized groups on Meta and reaching out to groups we haven’t heard back from.[1]
I have noticed that your User Group has not designated a discussion coordinator yet, and wanted to see if there is any information that you are missing right now, or any support you need. Of course, I would also like to hear from you if you decide not to participate right now. Every feedback will help us to improve and iterate on the ongoing process.
Looking forward to hearing from you, Nicole
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2017/Outreach/Li...
-- Nicole Ebber Adviser International Relations Movement Strategy Track Lead: Organized Groups
Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207.
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Isarra, why don't you do it? You are by far the most prominent Colorado Wikimedian, and have been for years. I think you are supposed to ask other Colorado WIkimedians these questions, in person if possible, or on this list:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2017/Participate
And then add a summary of whatever the answers are at one of the designated places.
I'm headed from Fort Lupton to Beijing next week and will be there until Wikimania in August, and might not be back in Colorado until December, but you can get a pretty good idea of what I hope to achieve in the next 15 years (which is, coincidentally, what the strategy discussion topic is) from meta:User:James_Salsman and the corresponding talk page, where I was recently unblocked to make a free open source alternative to Rosetta Stone and the like (did you know Rosetta Stone's speech team is in Boulder?) I got blocked earlier in the decade for surveying the inactive enwiki admins (after being blocked on enwiki in 2007 for suggesting to a Department of Defense employee who purported to be a medical doctor that it would have been wiser to recommend against breathing uranium fumes, which was taken as a legal threat. So I began a ten year sockpuppetry breaching experiment in accordance with WP:IAR, but I have ceased and denounced that behavior.)
Best regards, Jim Salsman
On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 8:42 PM Isarra Yos zhorishna@gmail.com wrote:
Technically I think this might be you, from our history thus far. Which makes you a bit like most of the wikimedia dc board - most of them aren't actually in DC anymore, either.
Or something. Do they ever define anywhere exactly what a discussion coordinator actually is/does?
-I
On 19/04/17 01:59, Gaurav Vaidya wrote:
Any volunteers?
Cheers, Gaurav
Typed on a tiny keyboard.
Begin forwarded message:
*From:* Nicole Ebber nicole.ebber@wikimedia.de *Date:* April 18, 2017 at 9:57:30 PM EDT *To:* Nicole Ebber nicole.ebber@wikimedia.de *Subject:* *Your User Group's movement strategy conversations*
Greetings,
I hope this email finds you well. As we are ending cycle 1 of the movement strategy process conversation today, I am currently looking into the list of organized groups on Meta and reaching out to groups we haven’t heard back from.[1]
I have noticed that your User Group has not designated a discussion coordinator yet, and wanted to see if there is any information that you are missing right now, or any support you need. Of course, I would also like to hear from you if you decide not to participate right now. Every feedback will help us to improve and iterate on the ongoing process.
Looking forward to hearing from you, Nicole
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2017/Outreach/Li...
-- Nicole Ebber Adviser International Relations Movement Strategy Track Lead: Organized Groups
Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207.
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Thank you for the kind words (and link), but I am just totally lost at this point, and Abhay went ahead and did it all on his own regardless.
Was there something wrong with the previous approach of just figuring out what the movement role is as we go, letting it evolve as the world itself does?
-I
On 20/04/17 05:57, James Salsman wrote:
Isarra, why don't you do it? You are by far the most prominent Colorado Wikimedian, and have been for years. I think you are supposed to ask other Colorado WIkimedians these questions, in person if possible, or on this list:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2017/Participate
And then add a summary of whatever the answers are at one of the designated places.
I'm headed from Fort Lupton to Beijing next week and will be there until Wikimania in August, and might not be back in Colorado until December, but you can get a pretty good idea of what I hope to achieve in the next 15 years (which is, coincidentally, what the strategy discussion topic is) from meta:User:James_Salsman and the corresponding talk page, where I was recently unblocked to make a free open source alternative to Rosetta Stone and the like (did you know Rosetta Stone's speech team is in Boulder?) I got blocked earlier in the decade for surveying the inactive enwiki admins (after being blocked on enwiki in 2007 for suggesting to a Department of Defense employee who purported to be a medical doctor that it would have been wiser to recommend against breathing uranium fumes, which was taken as a legal threat. So I began a ten year sockpuppetry breaching experiment in accordance with WP:IAR, but I have ceased and denounced that behavior.)
Best regards, Jim Salsman
On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 8:42 PM Isarra Yos <zhorishna@gmail.com mailto:zhorishna@gmail.com> wrote:
Technically I think this might be you, from our history thus far. Which makes you a bit like most of the wikimedia dc board - most of them aren't actually in DC anymore, either. Or something. Do they ever define anywhere exactly what a discussion coordinator actually is/does? -I On 19/04/17 01:59, Gaurav Vaidya wrote:Any volunteers? Cheers, Gaurav Typed on a tiny keyboard. Begin forwarded message:*From:* Nicole Ebber <nicole.ebber@wikimedia.de <mailto:nicole.ebber@wikimedia.de>> *Date:* April 18, 2017 at 9:57:30 PM EDT *To:* Nicole Ebber <nicole.ebber@wikimedia.de <mailto:nicole.ebber@wikimedia.de>> *Subject:* *Your User Group's movement strategy conversations* Greetings, I hope this email finds you well. As we are ending cycle 1 of the movement strategy process conversation today, I am currently looking into the list of organized groups on Meta and reaching out to groups we haven’t heard back from.[1] I have noticed that your User Group has not designated a discussion coordinator yet, and wanted to see if there is any information that you are missing right now, or any support you need. Of course, I would also like to hear from you if you decide not to participate right now. Every feedback will help us to improve and iterate on the ongoing process. Looking forward to hearing from you, Nicole [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2017/Outreach/List -- Nicole Ebber Adviser International Relations Movement Strategy Track Lead: Organized Groups Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207._______________________________________________ Wikimedia-US-CO mailing list Wikimedia-US-CO@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikimedia-US-CO@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-us-co_______________________________________________ Wikimedia-US-CO mailing list Wikimedia-US-CO@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikimedia-US-CO@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-us-co
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As far as I can tell, the 15 year projection is supposed to be far enough further than the discernible horizon that a wider variety of opinions will be considered valid, and thus may allow more constructive engagement. Think of brainstorming sessions, where people aren't allowed to criticize others, only proposed improved or different ideas.
I agree we should finish implementing the ideas from previous strategies before starting new ones, but I gather that they have been too mundane. I thing these are very good:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_Foundation/2016/Recommend...
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Strategy/Wikimedia_Foundation/2016/Reco...
Perhaps "finish implementing previous strategy ideas" can be something we all can agree on?
On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 10:01 PM Isarra Yos zhorishna@gmail.com wrote:
Thank you for the kind words (and link), but I am just totally lost at this point, and Abhay went ahead and did it all on his own regardless.
Was there something wrong with the previous approach of just figuring out what the movement role is as we go, letting it evolve as the world itself does?
-I
On 20/04/17 05:57, James Salsman wrote:
Isarra, why don't you do it? You are by far the most prominent Colorado Wikimedian, and have been for years. I think you are supposed to ask other Colorado WIkimedians these questions, in person if possible, or on this list:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2017/Participate
And then add a summary of whatever the answers are at one of the designated places.
I'm headed from Fort Lupton to Beijing next week and will be there until Wikimania in August, and might not be back in Colorado until December, but you can get a pretty good idea of what I hope to achieve in the next 15 years (which is, coincidentally, what the strategy discussion topic is) from meta:User:James_Salsman and the corresponding talk page, where I was recently unblocked to make a free open source alternative to Rosetta Stone and the like (did you know Rosetta Stone's speech team is in Boulder?) I got blocked earlier in the decade for surveying the inactive enwiki admins (after being blocked on enwiki in 2007 for suggesting to a Department of Defense employee who purported to be a medical doctor that it would have been wiser to recommend against breathing uranium fumes, which was taken as a legal threat. So I began a ten year sockpuppetry breaching experiment in accordance with WP:IAR, but I have ceased and denounced that behavior.)
Best regards, Jim Salsman
On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 8:42 PM Isarra Yos zhorishna@gmail.com wrote:
Technically I think this might be you, from our history thus far. Which makes you a bit like most of the wikimedia dc board - most of them aren't actually in DC anymore, either.
Or something. Do they ever define anywhere exactly what a discussion coordinator actually is/does?
-I
On 19/04/17 01:59, Gaurav Vaidya wrote:
Any volunteers?
Cheers, Gaurav
Typed on a tiny keyboard.
Begin forwarded message:
*From:* Nicole Ebber nicole.ebber@wikimedia.de *Date:* April 18, 2017 at 9:57:30 PM EDT *To:* Nicole Ebber nicole.ebber@wikimedia.de *Subject:* *Your User Group's movement strategy conversations*
Greetings,
I hope this email finds you well. As we are ending cycle 1 of the movement strategy process conversation today, I am currently looking into the list of organized groups on Meta and reaching out to groups we haven’t heard back from.[1]
I have noticed that your User Group has not designated a discussion coordinator yet, and wanted to see if there is any information that you are missing right now, or any support you need. Of course, I would also like to hear from you if you decide not to participate right now. Every feedback will help us to improve and iterate on the ongoing process.
Looking forward to hearing from you, Nicole
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2017/Outreach/Li...
-- Nicole Ebber Adviser International Relations Movement Strategy Track Lead: Organized Groups
Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207.
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Yeah, I think I'm just going to stay out of this.
2016's results, mundane though they may be, were at least actionable, even regardless of whether or not they were the right things to focus on. This, though, from looking at the guides, doesn't even seem like it's going to establish a consensus what movement and WMF priorities should be in general now, let alone in the future... because at no point does anyone actually ask that, even though that would be a very important question to answer. It's all themes and vision and random examples of what people want to see happen.
That's just me, though. I'll leave all this up to you lot. Thank you Abhay for taking the initiative to sort it out, or stuff.
-I
On 21/04/17 04:43, James Salsman wrote:
As far as I can tell, the 15 year projection is supposed to be far enough further than the discernible horizon that a wider variety of opinions will be considered valid, and thus may allow more constructive engagement. Think of brainstorming sessions, where people aren't allowed to criticize others, only proposed improved or different ideas.
I agree we should finish implementing the ideas from previous strategies before starting new ones, but I gather that they have been too mundane. I thing these are very good: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_Foundation/2016/Recommend...
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Strategy/Wikimedia_Foundation/2016/Reco...
Perhaps "finish implementing previous strategy ideas" can be something we all can agree on?
On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 10:01 PM Isarra Yos <zhorishna@gmail.com mailto:zhorishna@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you for the kind words (and link), but I am just totally lost at this point, and Abhay went ahead and did it all on his own regardless. Was there something wrong with the previous approach of just figuring out what the movement role is as we go, letting it evolve as the world itself does? -I On 20/04/17 05:57, James Salsman wrote:Isarra, why don't you do it? You are by far the most prominent Colorado Wikimedian, and have been for years. I think you are supposed to ask other Colorado WIkimedians these questions, in person if possible, or on this list: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2017/Participate And then add a summary of whatever the answers are at one of the designated places. I'm headed from Fort Lupton to Beijing next week and will be there until Wikimania in August, and might not be back in Colorado until December, but you can get a pretty good idea of what I hope to achieve in the next 15 years (which is, coincidentally, what the strategy discussion topic is) from meta:User:James_Salsman and the corresponding talk page, where I was recently unblocked to make a free open source alternative to Rosetta Stone and the like (did you know Rosetta Stone's speech team is in Boulder?) I got blocked earlier in the decade for surveying the inactive enwiki admins (after being blocked on enwiki in 2007 for suggesting to a Department of Defense employee who purported to be a medical doctor that it would have been wiser to recommend against breathing uranium fumes, which was taken as a legal threat. So I began a ten year sockpuppetry breaching experiment in accordance with WP:IAR, but I have ceased and denounced that behavior.) Best regards, Jim Salsman On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 8:42 PM Isarra Yos <zhorishna@gmail.com <mailto:zhorishna@gmail.com>> wrote: Technically I think this might be you, from our history thus far. Which makes you a bit like most of the wikimedia dc board - most of them aren't actually in DC anymore, either. Or something. Do they ever define anywhere exactly what a discussion coordinator actually is/does? -I On 19/04/17 01:59, Gaurav Vaidya wrote:Any volunteers? Cheers, Gaurav Typed on a tiny keyboard. Begin forwarded message:*From:* Nicole Ebber <nicole.ebber@wikimedia.de <mailto:nicole.ebber@wikimedia.de>> *Date:* April 18, 2017 at 9:57:30 PM EDT *To:* Nicole Ebber <nicole.ebber@wikimedia.de <mailto:nicole.ebber@wikimedia.de>> *Subject:* *Your User Group's movement strategy conversations* Greetings, I hope this email finds you well. As we are ending cycle 1 of the movement strategy process conversation today, I am currently looking into the list of organized groups on Meta and reaching out to groups we haven’t heard back from.[1] I have noticed that your User Group has not designated a discussion coordinator yet, and wanted to see if there is any information that you are missing right now, or any support you need. Of course, I would also like to hear from you if you decide not to participate right now. Every feedback will help us to improve and iterate on the ongoing process. Looking forward to hearing from you, Nicole [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2017/Outreach/List -- Nicole Ebber Adviser International Relations Movement Strategy Track Lead: Organized Groups Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207._______________________________________________ Wikimedia-US-CO mailing list Wikimedia-US-CO@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikimedia-US-CO@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-us-co_______________________________________________ Wikimedia-US-CO mailing list Wikimedia-US-CO@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikimedia-US-CO@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-us-co _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-US-CO mailing list Wikimedia-US-CO@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikimedia-US-CO@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-us-co_______________________________________________ Wikimedia-US-CO mailing list Wikimedia-US-CO@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikimedia-US-CO@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-us-co
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