Hi all,
Should we set up a demonstration wiki?
I'm thinking it might be good to have a wiki to experiment with different things, such as software requirements. I have been tinkering on a Genealogy extension, — it's super-basic and doesn't do much. (That's by design, really, because I didn't want to build features such as citation management or image handling that are not specific to genealogy.
It's probably not a place to put permanent information (although it could be that too), but we could install MediaWiki at https://tools.wmflabs.org/genealogy/wiki and start experimenting with things there. Does that sound like a worthwhile thing?
My current aim is to get the Genealogy extension to support Wikidata. It'd be good to have a place to demonstrate and figure out how this could work.
Thanks, Sam.
I think YES, we should set up a demo wiki
dan
2017-04-25 3:27 GMT+02:00 Sam Wilson sam@samwilson.id.au:
Hi all,
Should we set up a demonstration wiki?
I'm thinking it might be good to have a wiki to experiment with different things, such as software requirements. I have been tinkering on a Genealogy extension, — it's super-basic and doesn't do much. (That's by design, really, because I didn't want to build features such as citation management or image handling that are not specific to genealogy.
It's probably not a place to put permanent information (although it could be that too), but we could install MediaWiki at https://tools.wmflabs.org/genealogy/wiki and start experimenting with things there. Does that sound like a worthwhile thing?
My current aim is to get the Genealogy extension to support Wikidata. It'd be good to have a place to demonstrate and figure out how this could work.
Thanks, Sam.
Wikimedia-genealogy mailing list Wikimedia-genealogy@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-genealogy
FWIW - I've been grinding away on getting the WeRelate genealogy wiki (2.8 M _UNIQUE_ Person Pages) to be "aligned" with Wikidata. At the moment, about 24,500 WeRelate Person: pages have explicit links to their corresponding Wikidata human. A little more than 24,000 of the corresponding Wikidata humans have identifiers/back-links to WeRelate.
My compare/contrast effort between WeRelate and Wikidata should increase the overlapping set of people beyond 30,000. Since the various WP biography pages are not systematic about relationships (often not present - and if the related person has a biography on a different language WP it may not be noticed) - a lot of genealogy relationships are missing from Wikidata. The comparison run I did today suggested that there are about 11,500 relationship properties (father, mother, sibling, etc.) that can be inferred for Wikidata - on the basis of WeRelate.
While I could see that the Wikidata database is more instantly usable on account of the property orientation and newer software infrastructure - WeRelate is not utterly hopeless. It has an internal organization that preserve the semantic structure of GEDCOM files. WeRelate also isn't stuck with WP notability requirements - so you can add (within reason) - pretty much whatever you want.
I would sort of think that the WR database - and perhaps DallanQ's code base - seem like better starting points...
-jrm
On 2017-08-24 15:00, Dan Koehl wrote:
I think YES, we should set up a demo wiki
dan
2017-04-25 3:27 GMT+02:00 Sam Wilson sam@samwilson.id.au:
Hi all,
Should we set up a demonstration wiki?
I'm thinking it might be good to have a wiki to experiment with different things, such as software requirements. I have been tinkering on a Genealogy extension, -- it's super-basic and doesn't do much. (That's by design, really, because I didn't want to build features such as citation management or image handling that are not specific to genealogy.
It's probably not a place to put permanent information (although it could be that too), but we could install MediaWiki at https://tools.wmflabs.org/genealogy/wiki [1] and start experimenting with things there. Does that sound like a worthwhile thing?
My current aim is to get the Genealogy extension to support Wikidata. It'd be good to have a place to demonstrate and figure out how this could work.
Thanks, Sam.
Wikimedia-genealogy mailing list Wikimedia-genealogy@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-genealogy [2]
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