On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 3:15 AM, James Hare messedrocker@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Kirill Lokshin kirill.lokshin@gmail.com wrote:
And on another note, should we do something about the current mailing
list
structure? We seem to be using wm-dc-bid for all the organization
matters
related to the chapter, rather than only for bid discussion; while this
is a
natural consequence of the organization having emerged from the bid team, it's probably not ideal in the long run. At the very least, I would suggest that we use wm-dc as the primary list, and reserve the wm-dc-bid list for matters specifically related to Wikimania; it may also be feasible to just combine the two lists, since Wikimania planning is going to be fairly central to our activities over
the
next year. Another possibility might be to create a separate wm-dc-board list to use for organizational matters, but that might just cause more confusion
among
the different lists. Kirill
The origin of the private Wikimania bid mailing list was out of a concern that discussion of the bid would be taking up too much of the mailing list's traffic. What resulted was a sort of separation between the people actively working on the chapter (since the chapter is ultimately the result of the conference's needs) and everyone else, and I do not believe it is effective for there to be two separate mailing lists, especially since one is a private Google Group which I run from my personal account. As the conference is no longer in the hands of an ad-hoc group but a non-profit organization as well as its (prospective) members, I propose the following changes be made:
- The Wikimania DC Bid list is made read-only, effectively shutting
it down.
I am okay with that.
Discussion of Wikimania will take place on this list, Wikimedia-DC, to prevent any further splintering of the community and to ensure as much input as possible. The Wikimania Planning Committee may carry out business on this list if it so chooses.
Chapter business should definitely be on wikimedia-dc, and some Wikimania discussion but certainly not every minutiae of Wikimania planning.
We still need a wikimania-planning list of some sort, to include the 28 people who volunteered with our bid + anyone else who wants to help. That might be our own list, run on wikidc.org and/or there is wikimania-planning run by WMF as a restricted list.
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-planning-l
After all, there will be things to discuss that we may not yet want to make public and/or deal with private, personal info (in the latter case, we will use OTRS for a bit of that).
(As a member of
said committee, I am against the committee sequestering itself onto its own list, since the role of the committee is to lead the wider community process of organizing Wikimania, not to organize Wikimania autonomously.)
I think the volume of messages may overwhelm people, and although an announce list helps, some people might want to be involved with the chapter but not so much Wikimania.
- Wikimedia-DC-announce is created. For those who don't want to be
updated on the minutiae of chapter activity but still want to hear about events and other news, this mailing list will be an option. This list will work similarly to existing announce lists such as toolserver-announce-l.
This is a good idea.
- If the Board of Directors deems it necessary, a restricted-access
Wikimedia-DC-board list is created for Board members and a few select non-Board members.
This is necessary. There simply is some stuff that should not be public or publicly archived. (e.g. any personal info)
In the interest of accountability, all of these lists would be operated by lists.wikimedia.org;
wikimedia-dc and wikimedia-dc-announce should be on lists.wikimedia.org
Any board list should not be, as we are not dependent on WMF. We can run any additional lists ourselves on wikidc.org
-Katie
there would no privately ran Google Groups lists like the Wikimania DC Bid list currently is.
Thoughts?
-- James Hare
Wikimedia-DC mailing list Wikimedia-DC@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-dc