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Eigum við ekki að stefna á hitting nú fljótlega eftir páska, t.d. á
laugardaginn eftir viku? Það þarf að ræða næstu skref. Stofnun Wikimedia
user group, samstarf við FSFÍ og hugmyndir til að efla wikimedia-verkefnin.
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Some one recommended I join this group. Myself and several members from
Wikinews (representing three different language projects) are in the
pre-stage planning phase before going live with a proposal to create a
Wikinews related thematic organization. Iceland has strong journalist
protections and is recognized around the world for having these. Thus, as
reporters, we ideally want our organization to be registered in the country.
If there is anyone on this list from Iceland who is interested in becoming
involved with this, as we really need an Icelander to guide us through the
local processes, please get in touch with me. I am often on IRC on
irc.freenode.net in #wikinews , #wikinews-en or #wikipedia-en-helpers . My
username is either purplepopple or LauraHale. I can also be reached on
g!talk at laura(a)fanhistory.com and Skype at purplepopple.
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User:LauraHale is my user page. Any assistance
would be massively appreciated even if no one wants to permanently committ.
If we do this, we would also look for ways to support the local Icelandic
projects where possible and would specifically address the country in any
Var að detta í hug hvort það væri ekki hægt að koma upp smá átaki meðal
okkar að taka upp hljóðdæmi í Wikiorðabókinni? Þetta er eitthvað sem ég
held að sé alls ekki í boði í öðrum íslenskum orðabókum af þessari
stærðargráðu sem myndi gera „okkar“ orðabók framar hinum hvað þetta
varðar. Þá væri hægt að nota sömu upptökur fyrir samnefndar greinar á
íslenska Wikipedia (eða lesa upp nöfn Wikipedia greina líka). Þá getum
við jafnvel fengið almenning til þess að lesa inn nokkur orð hver þannig
að þetta séu ekki sömu raddirnar allan tímann. Það gæti jafnvel vakið
athygli ef við gætum skipulagt atburð í kringum þetta.
Það sem þyrfti fyrir slíkan atburð er aðallega:
* góður upptökubúnaður (þarf ekki að vera mjög pro)
* sjálfboðaliðar sem sjá um upptöku og leiðsögn
* staður til að vera á (sem hentar fyrir upptökur)
* aðili sem getur hjálpað til með að auglýsa atburðinn til fólks sem
hefði líklegast áhuga
* skjöl þar sem viðkomandi samþykkir að framlag sitt verði sett fram
undir notkunarskilmálum viðkomandi WikiMedia verkefna
Í þessu tilviki var ég að hugsa um einhvern háskólann eða stað þar sem
nokkuð margir eru á hvort sem er (svo ákveðinn kjarni þurfi ekki að fara
langt til þess að taka þátt). Einnig væri hægt að fá fólk í fræðigreinum
til þess að lesa upp orð sem tengjast þeim. Það skiptir ekki miklu máli
að orðið sé þá þegar í Wikiorðabókinni þar sem hægt er að bæta orðinu
Ég ætti að geta reddað upptökubúnaðnum og er alveg tilbúinn til þess að
vera á staðnum. Einhver hér sem hefur sambönd við fólk eða stofnanir sem
gætu haft áhuga?
Ég hef verið í samskiptum við Asaf Bartov hjá Wikimedia um mögulegt
Wikimediafélag á Íslandi. Ég áframsendi nú þau samskipti á póstlistann.
Hann bendir á möguleikann á að við getum til að byrja með skipulagt
okkur sem "user group"
(https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_User_Groups). Það er nýlega
tilkomin skilgreining hjá WMF og hefur þá kosti að slíkur félagsskapur
nýtur viðurkenningar sem samstarfsaðili Wikimedia en þarf ekki að vera
jafn formbundinn og chapter félag. Slíkur hópur gæti einnig starfað
undir regnhlíf FSFÍ. Honum líst vel á áform um að gera dálítið mikið úr
afmælisárinu og bendir á að okkur standa til boða styrkir frá Wikimedia
til þess að koma hlutum í framkvæmd.
Ég vakti athygli á stöðunni á léninu Wikipedia.is og því verður vísað
til lögfræðihóps WMF. Stofnunin vill eiga þetta lén sjálf án milliliða
en íslenska Wikimedia-samfélagið getur haft áhrif á hvernig það verður
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [Ticket#2013022010001174] Requesting a permission to use
WMF logo and name for a project in Iceland
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 10:57:31 -0800
From: Asaf Bartov <abartov(a)wikimedia.org>
To: Bjarki Sigursveinsson <bjarki(a)gmail.com>
Thanks for this useful information! I agree the 10th anniversary would
be a great opportunity for increasing public awareness etc., and we'd be
happy to support the costs of an event, outreach materials, etc.,
through a grant.
Could you tell me a little more about the Icelandic community? Our
stats pages suggest there are about 30 active editors and about 4
very active editors. About how many of those do you know personally?
How geographically diverse is the community? What has the response to
your efforts been like, so far?
Forming a sub-group within FSFí would be fine, and possibly a good first
step, but you are correct that a _chapter_ is expected to be an
independent, incorporated entity dedicated to Wikimedia work, although
in fact several Wikimedia Chapters are also functioning as their
countries' Creative Commons affiliates. However, last year we have
introduced new models of affiliation -- thematic organizations and
user groups. We find that a Wikimedia User group, which doesn't need
to be incorporated, is often the best fit for a group in the beginning.
If and when the group wants/need to incorporate and wants chapter
status, it can apply for recognition as a chapter, with its track record
of activity as a user group. Another benefit of the user group model
would be that it is perfectly compatible with the group also being a
sub-group within FSFí. What do you think?
If and when you are ready to proceed with affiliation (in any model),
the way forward is by applying to the (all-volunteer) Affiliations
Committee (AffCom). Details here.
Regarding the domain squatter -- I have forwarded this to our legal
department, as they handle trademark issues. They will try to approach
the current owner politely and see where that goes. If needed, we can
file an appeal on the basis of the trademark and gain control of the
domain, but that's a more expensive process. The WMF should own
wikipedia.* domains, as for other to own it would be a trademark
violation. If/when we gain control of that domain, we would welcome the
Icelandic community's thoughts on what would be the best content for it
-- probably something similar to the current one, minus the ads. :)
On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Bjarki Sigursveinsson <bjarki(a)gmail.com
Thank you for the response. Stephen was quite clear about my
inquiry, I will contact the political parties but in my own personal
Starting a Wikimedia chapter in Iceland was discussed in the
Icelandic Wikipedia community several years ago but the that effort
went into coma. I have been trying to revive these efforts partly
because there is a 10 year anniversary of the Icelandic Wikipedia
coming up in December 2013 and that occasion should be celebrated
and used to increase public awareness of and participation in
Wikimedia projects. The ideas that have been floated involve regular
off-wiki meet-ups, outreach to students and an anniversary
conference in December where we could perhaps invite a speaker from
I have been in contact with the chairman of the Icelandic Instute
for Digital Freedom (FSFÍ) who is eager to assist and help promote
Wikimedia in Iceland. It has been suggested that Wikimedians in
Iceland could form a sub-group within FSFÍ although I think that in
order to be a WM-recognized chapter, our group would need to be
independent and focused solely on Wikimedia projects.
There has been some concern about the registration of the domain
wikipedia.is <http://wikipedia.is> which is currently held by an
individual who is not using it just to benefit the goals of
Wikimedia but as a personal ad space for his business. Although to
be fair, he also displays links to Wikipedia. Perhaps you could tell
me if the foundation has a policy on these matters? Since there is
no local chapter operating in Iceland (yet), it has been suggested
that the Icelandic Institute for Digital Freedom could register the
domain or an individual who is more aligned to the goals of the
foundation, but this would need the backing of the foundation as the
trademark holder if the current holder of the domain does not
respond to being asked politely.
On 26.2.2013 21:15, Asaf Bartov wrote:
> Hi, Bjarki.
> Thanks for reaching out! I hope Stephen's response was clear. I
> wanted to express my delight at hearing from you and learning
> about the renewed interest in off-wiki activities in Iceland.
> Please consider me your primary contact at WMF.
> I would love to hear more about this new group and your plans, and
> to offer any help I can. I hope you are aware of the various WMF
> grantmaking programs -- see
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Start if you're not. Beyond
> funding and trademark permission, I might be in a position to help
> connect you with other Wikimedians who have relevant experience or
> who are currently working on similar projects.
> I look forward to staying in touch.
> On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Stephen LaPorte
> <slaporte(a)wikimedia.org <mailto:email@example.com>> wrote:
> Hello Bjarki,
> Your email was forwarded by a member of our volunteer response
> team. Thank you for contacting us, and I am happy to hear
> about the group of Wikimedians in Iceland!
> In general, a group may receive permission to use official
> logos after they are recognized by the Affiliations Committee
> <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee>. The
> Affiliations Committee recognizes three types of groups: user
> groups, chapters, and thematic organizations. I would like to
> introduce my colleague, Asaf Bartov <abartov(a)wikimedia.org
> <mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org>>, who may be able to provide
> some guidance about the Affiliations Committee's process.
> Before your group has received recognition, you may request
> limited trademark permissions for specific activity or event.
> These requests are handled on a case-by-case basis. If your
> group would like to request to use a logo, first I suggest
> reviewing the trademark policy at
> <http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Trademark_policy>. If
> your proposed use will require permission, please send a
> detailed description of the request and proposal (including a
> mockup or demo, if possible) to <trademarks(a)wikimedia.org
> <mailto:email@example.com>>. Of course, please feel
> free to contact me at <slaporte(a)wikimedia.org
> <mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org>> if you have any questions.
> Finally, please note that contacting politicians or political
> candidates is a complicated place to start. For tax reasons,
> our grants or trademarks may not be used to influence a
> political election or lobby for legislation. You may provide
> general education about Creative Commons licenses, but we do
> not officially contact politicians, political candidates, or
> political parties. This sort of activity should only be done
> in an unofficial, non-sponsored, individual capacity. I would
> recommend starting with other events or activities that
> support contributors, such as a conference, competition, or
> Thanks again for reaching out to us, and I look forward to
> working with you.
> On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 4:49 AM, Wikipedia information team
> <info-en(a)wikimedia.org <mailto:email@example.com>> wrote:
> We have a request below for logo use from a fellow editor
> who would like to use it
> in hopes of establishing a chapter in Iceland.
> Yours sincerely,
> Mike VanHall
> Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/
> Disclaimer: all mail to this address is answered by
> volunteers, and responses are
> not to be considered an official statement of the
> Wikimedia Foundation. For official
> correspondence, please contact the Wikimedia Foundation by
> certified mail at the
> address listed on https://www.wikimediafoundation.org/
> ---- Forwarded message from Bjarki Sigursveinsson
> <bjarki(a)gmail.com <mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org>> ---
> From: Bjarki Sigursveinsson <bjarki(a)gmail.com
> To: info(a)wikimedia.org <mailto:email@example.com>
> Subject: Requesting a permission to use WMF logo and name
> for a project in Iceland
> Date: 2013-02-20 04:39:47
> > Hi,
> > I am requesting a permission to use the Wikimedia
> Foundation name and
> > logo for a special project in Iceland. There is no
> currently operating
> > local chapter in Iceland but there is a group of
> enthusiasts that has
> > been meeting and talking lately about reviving efforts
> to establish a WM
> > chapter in Iceland. I am one of those people. I am also
> an administrator
> > or a bureaucrat on several Wikimedia projects. (Global
> user "Bjarki_S").
> > Parliamentary elections are coming up in April and the
> political parties
> > are making their promotional materials, including promo
> photos of their
> > candidates. Now would be a good time to contact the
> parties and
> > introduce them to the benefits of CC licensing these
> photographs to
> > ensure maximum distribution and nicely illustrated
> Wikipedia articles.
> > The parties need clear directions in the matter to
> ensure this is done
> > correctly and not in violation of the rights held by the
> > that they hired to do the shots. The parties need to
> clarify the terms
> > with the hired photographers that make these pictures so
> that there is
> > no doubt that the pictures can be CC licensed and it is
> preferable that
> > the parties themselves publish the photographs on their
> own sites or
> > flickr streams and clearly state the licensing terms there.
> > A request like this would carry a lot more weight if one
> could say it
> > was approved by the WMF if not directly sponsored by it.
> It could also
> > be seen as a pilot project for the eventual foundation
> of a local
> > chapter as per:
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Step-by-
> > I was not quite sure about how to contact the Foundation
> for a
> > permission such as this so I sent this request as an
> email to
> > info(a)wikimedia.org <mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org> where it
> can hopefully be forwarded to anyone
> > authorised to give such permissions.
> > Sincerely.
> > --
> > Bjarki Sigursveinsson
> > +354 8215644 <tel:%2B354%208215644>
> > Mánagötu 8
> > 105 Reykjavík
> > Iceland
> ---- End forwarded message ---
> Stephen LaPorte
> Legal Counsel
> Wikimedia Foundation
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> For legal reasons, I may only serve as an attorney for the
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> to or serve as a lawyer for community members, volunteers, or
> staff members in their personal capacity./
> Asaf Bartov
> Wikimedia Foundation <http://www.wikimediafoundation.org>
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Þar sem það er ekki til listi fyrir íslenska Wiktionary sendi ég þetta
Var að spá hvort við ættum að byrja á því að skilgreina allar orðmyndir
á orðasíðunum sjálfum í stað þess að vísa í sér orðmyndasíðu. Einn
ókosturinn við það er ef orðið hefur nokkuð margar orðmyndir er að það
gæti tekið mikið skjápláss. Á móti kemur að þeir þurfa ekki að fletta
aftur eða athuga sérstaklega ef þær eru til eða ekki.
Hvað finnst ykkur?