Following Manos & Badseed response I have to
inform you all that the *Athens
Concert Hall Musical Library* will be available for us Monday the 15th
of April (the time is open from 11:00 to 17:00 p.m.).
So, the *question towards Asaf *is if he can finally participate as the
main speaker in this seminar, since we don't know the exact date and time
of his departure. We hope that it is the 16th of April or late hours the
15th. But still we need to confirm ;)
Best regards,
Nikos Papadimoulis
2013/3/6 manos _ <m_a_n_o_s_(a)hotmail.com>
The Lillian Voudouri Great Music Library of
Greece is a nice warm &
quiet place with big tables and seats around,
computers with internet access to work on, wi-fi availability and there
can be a presentation projector if we ask for it.
Of course it is a library and we cannot have laughs or be very loud as
we speak, but we are very welcome.
It depends on what the need will be for the meeting.
Manos (ManosHacker)
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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 18:07:18 +0200
Subject: Re: Greece - urgent
From: wikibadseed(a)gmail.com
To: elanor.fair(a)gmail.com
CC: wikieugenia(a)gmail.com; abartov(a)wikimedia.org; glavkos(a)gmail.com;
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(translation and replenishment of my previous email): Regarding to the
meeting/seminar at thw Musical Library, the preferably proposed dates are
11th (which is the date of arrival) and 15th (possible date of departure?)
during which there are no other events at the library and the schedule is
open. An alternative is the morning of Friday, 12/4, there is another event
at 15:00 so the library is available 10:00-13:30. I personally think 15th
would be the best option if Asaf can stay that long. It is a Monday
afternoon so worjing people will be able to come too (Friday morning is not
such a good option). Unless, if we take Asaf captive and have him
presenting seminars in Greece *forever*. :P
Manos will help in this i think, as he has presented many seminars in
the said Library. Markellos was present at the last seminar, as well. I
think we should strive for this meeting, because it is in a venue/audience
that has an ongoing seminar, it is also downtown and easy access to the
public.
Badseed
2013/3/6 Veron <elanor.fair(a)gmail.com>
Hello Asaf!!
I am the "wikipedian to help you about your travel arrangements". :)
Athens center is considered to be the districts between Omonoia Square
and Syntagma, pretty close to Plaka/Monastiraki/Acropolis.
Also Hilton Hotel/American Embassy area is considered very well located,
with easy access to transport services.
A very convenient choice for this area would be 4* BW Ilisia, 4* BW Plus
Embassy, 4* Golden Age and 4* Airotel Alexandros with very reasonable
prices (checked 40-60euros per night for a single room with breakfast).
In the same price range: 4* Ilissos Hotel also near Acropolis/Plaka, 4*
President Hotel (near two metro stations).
I would say to avoid the hotels near Omonoia; they are good, but area is
avoided during night hours, I am sorry to admit. :/
Looking forward to your arrival!!
Veroniki (user Veron)
On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 11:25 PM, Αχρήστης <wikieugenia(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you for your quick response! :)
I have informed the wikipedians
here<http://el.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CE%92%CE%B9%CE%BA%CE%B9%CF%80%CE%B1%C…
only in greek for the moment) and will create a dedicated page if we
get a positive answer from someone from the ministry.
This week the troika is coming to the ministry, so we are expecting it
to be pretty nuts around here, but I think that we could hope for an answer
by sometime next week by the General Secretary 's office. We will keep you
posted and see if we can come up with some recommendations for your hotel
soon enough! :)
2013/3/5 Asaf Bartov <abartov(a)wikimedia.org>
Hi, Evgenia.
Yes, I would be happy to meet with the General Secretary if it would
help the community bring some issues we care about to the ministry! By all
means, let's start that page to plan what we want to say, and gather good
examples from other countries etc. And yes, it would be appropriate to
inform the community this is planned.
Our travel assistant is looking into my travel arrangements right now
(I'll probably be landing on Apr 11th, leaving on the 16th), but if you
have hotel recommendations I'd be happy to hear. The two main factors are:
it needs to be reasonably frugal -- no five star hotels, no need for any
special facilities (spa etc.) -- and reasonably practical, i.e. close to
where most meetings would be likely held, especially considering Athens's
famous traffic congestion. :)
A.
On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 7:54 AM, Αχρήστης <wikieugenia(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Asaf,
Sorry for bothering you by e-mail but I am not sure if this is a
question up to you (& the foundation) or up to the greek wikimedian
community as well:
-Would you be interested in having a meeting with the General Secretary
of the Greek Ministry of Education (Athanassios Kyriazis) in the scope of
public relations, cooperation, or lobbying (concerning freedom of panorama,
public domain issues etc)?
I am currently working for the Greek Ministry of education and I can
make a first contact with his office next week to see whether he would be
interested as well. I have to know in advance if you/we are interested
because i will have to be sure before making any contact with his office.
And (if no-one else volunteers for the task) I am eager to help you
prepare the meeting by opening a page in greek wikipedia with potential
proposals concerning the ministry and making a brief report in english for
you. In case you feel that the community should be informed before
commiting in seeing him, we will address the issue as soon as possible.
+If you need any arrangements about your staying in Athens, there is a
wikipedian that we can contact in order to help you. :)
sincerely
Evgenia (user: Αχρήστης)
2013/3/1 Glavkos Xaon <glavkos(a)gmail.com>
Hi Asaf,
we are excited that we are going finally to meet you in
Athens in the mid of April.
I just created a page on ELWP which we can use to coordinate our
meeting. Here it is:
http://bit.ly/XI9GPa
All the best,
Nikos Papadimoulis , aka Glavkos
2013/3/1 Asaf Bartov <abartov(a)wikimedia.org>
Thanks, everyone!
It's settled, then! :) I'll be booking my flights in the next couple
of days and will let you know as soon as I've made them. The plan is to
arrive on the 11th and leave on the 15th or 16th. Let's start a page to
plan this together. Would a page on Meta be okay? If you prefer, I'm
happy to do this on ELWP as well -- just send me a link.
I look forward to seeing you! :)
A.
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 10:11 PM, Focal Point <focalpointx(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
Hi Asaf,
After discussion in the Agora from 23 until 27 Feb, there are 5 positive
answers from registered members of the wikipedia commnity (FocalPoint,
Ttzavaras, Pyraechmes, Glavkos, geraki), of which one (Pyraehmes) finds it
difficult to attend because of distance and other obligations.
Αχρήστης initiated the discussion, and I suppose that she will also
answer positively.
Discussion up to now concerning organization of events is for:
*a wikipedians informal meeting
*a one-day conference (space is secured)
*or both
Regards,
FocalPoint
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 2:03 AM, Glavkos Xaon <glavkos(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
I surely can arrange a leave to visit Athens for this
meeting. I can be there for the weekend and probably earlier (on 11th/12th
of April). Certainly I am also willing to do what it takes to support the
meeting and help in organizing the needed details before and throughout
the event(s).
All the best,
Nikos Papadimoulis
2013/2/28 Asaf Bartov <abartov(a)wikimedia.org>
That works for me. I could arrive on the 10th/11th, and we can set up
meeting before, during and just after the weekend, as appropriate. Then I
can leave for Milan on the 16th.
I'd like a couple more people to confirm that this would work for the
community, and then I can go ahead with the arrangements and we can take
our time planning how to make the best of my visit.
Thanks,
A.
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Tassos Tzavaras <
tzavarastassos(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hello everybody. I would suggest the date of 13-14th April, since the
27 - 28 is the beginning of Easter period in Greece and possibly many of us
will be absent on Easter vacations (including myself). We look forward to
see you in Greece and have a face to face conversation for our Community
here. Thanks in advance,
Tassos Tzavaras
Hi, folks.
The answer is _yes_, I can make those dates, but I need to know by
Friday if possible, as we're making arrangements for Milan, and I need to
know how to book my flights there.
I'm happy to answer any questions, of course, and to plan the
particulars of my visit with you.
Thanks,
Asaf
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 12:14 AM, Konstantinos Stampoulis <
geraki(a)geraki.gr> wrote:
Hello Asaf.
To keep you informed, there is a conversation about your visit in
Greece, in Wikipedia's Agora (Village Pump):
http://goo.gl/k9xRo
So, it is not that we are not interested for your visit, but we still
talk if a conference for the general audience should be organised on the
occasion or just do some community meetings.
A question I have: Since you will be in Italy at 18-21 April, you must
extend your trip for some days to be in Greece for at least a weekend. Can
you extend it for enough days to be here at 13-14th or 27-28th of April?
Any community meeting should be on a weekend.
I'm posting this mail to WikiEL mailing list (I think you are already
a member) so that it will be more open, and we can link to your mails.
I suggest that all cc'd users subscribe to it.
Konstantinos Stampoulis
geraki(a)geraki.gr
http://www.geraki.gr
2013/2/20 Asaf Bartov <abartov(a)wikimedia.org>
Hi, folks.
I haven't heard back from you in a while. What are your current
thoughts about my proposed visit to Greece?
As a reminder, I was thinking of visiting for the following goals and
activities:
1. to meet with as many of you as possible and learn from you about
the state of the community, your personal projects and plans, the obstacles
you face.
2. to do one or more development workshops for the community in Greece
-- i.e. discussion and (two-way!) experience sharing toward growing the
Wikimedia community and its reach in Greece. We could discuss whatever
problems or challenges you feel would be most valuable to work on. Some
examples might be: representation (who gets to speak for Wikipedia in
Greece? How?); creating partnerships (how? when? with whom?); how to live
with (and without?) community conflict, etc.
(I have extensive program experience in the movement, including as a
former board member of a local chapter, as well as experience with
volunteer recruitment and management outside the movement, from other
projects I've been involved with as a volunteer over the years.)
3. to help your group secure meetings with potential partners, in case
an official representative of the Foundation, or just "a visitor from the
US", would help get a first meeting with people like university rectors,
mayors, etc.
4. if helpful, do public speaking (in English, unfortunately) about
Wikipedia in general public occasions or at universities. In general, I
think it's better for local volunteers to do public speaking, but again, if
an international guest would bring a larger audience or something, I'm
happy to help. We can also think about a joint presentation -- one of you
speaking in Greek about the Greek community and about Wikipedia
particulars, and I giving a broader view of the movement, international
activities, and maybe one or two of the sister projects.
All of this is just an outline of what a visit _can_ be. What it
_would_ be really depends on planning work we'd need to put into this (i.e.
actually securing meetings, lectures, picking dates, etc.), and most of
that work would best be done by Greek-speaking locals... So it's really up
to you.
Concretely, I am traveling to Milan, Italy for the Wikimedia
Conference 2013 in mid-April, and would be able to come to Greece
before/after it, _but if so_, we need to start making arrangements for this
very soon. If you'd like me to visit but can't spare the time to prepare,
or just want it to be later, that's fine, and I can make a separate trip to
Greece later in the year.
If, in the meantime, you have come to the conclusion a visit would not
be very useful or appropriate now, that's fine too, and please don't
hesitate to say so if that's the case.
Cheers,
Asaf
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