Dear all,
I am wondering how to create Lexemes on our Wikibase, FactGrid, with QuickStatements - is there anyone who could teach me the trick?
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:QuickStatements
...does not quite tell me.
Best, Olaf
Dr. Olaf Simons Forschungszentrum Gotha der Universität Erfurt Am Schlossberg 2 99867 Gotha Büro: +49-361-737-1722 Mobil: +49-179-5196880 Privat: Hauptmarkt 17b/ 99867 Gotha
Hello Olaf,
Unfortunately it appears that this is not possible at this time, per this feature request: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T220985
There has not been movement on this issue for four years and it seems likely that other avenues have been used for the addition of lexemes on Wikidata, where there has been a desire to do so: https://wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata_talk:Lexicographical_data/Archive/2019/05 Such as https://wikidata.org/wiki/User:Yurik/Lexicator https://github.com/nyurik/lexicator Other tools may be mentioned in the revision histories of various lexemes.
It is, however, meant to be possible to "use lexeme, form and sense IDs as statement values, and "edit statements of lexemes, forms and senses" in QS: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/R2010:d4bbd816e688d910d28617acf22a8ecc2a72... as noted in https://wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat/Archive/2018/10#QuickStateme...
It may necessary to add a line like this to config.json in the factgrid section to do this: https://github.com/magnusmanske/quickstatements/blob/c4b2c6b086b319aa32dcdd7...
In addition I read that this may not work in background batches; there may be other issues: https://wikidata.org/wiki/Help_talk:QuickStatements/Archive_1#Lexeme (some of them appear to have been issues in Wikibase itself, now fixed).
I'm not a regular QS user; if anyone has more information in this area, please feel free to chime in.
Best regards, -- Laurence 'GreenReaper' Parry - WBUG https://GreenReaper.co.uk
________________________________ From: Olaf Simons olaf.simons@pierre-marteau.com Sent: Monday, July 10, 2023 11:56:46 AM To: Wikibase Community User Group wikibaseug@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikibase] creating Lexemes with QuickStatements
Dear all,
I am wondering how to create Lexemes on our Wikibase, FactGrid, with QuickStatements - is there anyone who could teach me the trick?
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:QuickStatements
...does not quite tell me.
Best, Olaf
Dr. Olaf Simons Forschungszentrum Gotha der Universität Erfurt Am Schlossberg 2 99867 Gotha Büro: +49-361-737-1722 Mobil: +49-179-5196880 Privat: Hauptmarkt 17b/ 99867 Gotha _______________________________________________ Wikibase Community User Group mailing list -- wikibaseug@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikibaseug-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
Hi Larry,
Thank you for the through answer.
It seems then to be a bigger issue. Maybe I can find someone to add this to QuickStatements, since we were already able to add a Julian Calendar option to the program).
Best regards, Olaf
Laurence Parry greenreaper@hotmail.com hat am 11.07.2023 09:43 CEST geschrieben:
Hello Olaf,
Unfortunately it appears that this is not possible at this time, per this feature request: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T220985
There has not been movement on this issue for four years and it seems likely that other avenues have been used for the addition of lexemes on Wikidata, where there has been a desire to do so: https://wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata_talk:Lexicographical_data/Archive/2019/05 Such as https://wikidata.org/wiki/User:Yurik/Lexicator https://github.com/nyurik/lexicator Other tools may be mentioned in the revision histories of various lexemes.
It is, however, meant to be possible to "use lexeme, form and sense IDs as statement values, and "edit statements of lexemes, forms and senses" in QS: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/R2010:d4bbd816e688d910d28617acf22a8ecc2a72... as noted in https://wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat/Archive/2018/10#QuickStateme...
It may necessary to add a line like this to config.json in the factgrid section to do this: https://github.com/magnusmanske/quickstatements/blob/c4b2c6b086b319aa32dcdd7...
In addition I read that this may not work in background batches; there may be other issues: https://wikidata.org/wiki/Help_talk:QuickStatements/Archive_1#Lexeme (some of them appear to have been issues in Wikibase itself, now fixed).
I'm not a regular QS user; if anyone has more information in this area, please feel free to chime in.
Best regards,
Laurence 'GreenReaper' Parry - WBUG https://GreenReaper.co.uk
From: Olaf Simons olaf.simons@pierre-marteau.com Sent: Monday, July 10, 2023 11:56:46 AM To: Wikibase Community User Group wikibaseug@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikibase] creating Lexemes with QuickStatements
Dear all,
I am wondering how to create Lexemes on our Wikibase, FactGrid, with QuickStatements - is there anyone who could teach me the trick?
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:QuickStatements
...does not quite tell me.
Best, Olaf
Dr. Olaf Simons Forschungszentrum Gotha der Universität Erfurt Am Schlossberg 2 99867 Gotha Büro: +49-361-737-1722 Mobil: +49-179-5196880 Privat: Hauptmarkt 17b/ 99867 Gotha _______________________________________________ Wikibase Community User Group mailing list -- wikibaseug@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikibaseug-leave@lists.wikimedia.org _______________________________________________ Wikibase Community User Group mailing list -- wikibaseug@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikibaseug-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
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Hi all,
the main reason I didn't put Lexemes in QuickStatements is that there were concerns that the Lexeme namespace would be flooded with entries copied in bulk from who-knows-where, which would raise concerns about the legality of the entire namespace. We are legally not even allowed to copy Wiktionary data, because Lexemes are CC0.
Cheers, Magnus
On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 9:29 AM Olaf Simons olaf.simons@pierre-marteau.com wrote:
Hi Larry,
Thank you for the through answer.
It seems then to be a bigger issue. Maybe I can find someone to add this to QuickStatements, since we were already able to add a Julian Calendar option to the program).
Best regards, Olaf
Laurence Parry greenreaper@hotmail.com hat am 11.07.2023 09:43 CEST
geschrieben:
Hello Olaf,
Unfortunately it appears that this is not possible at this time, per
this feature request:
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T220985
There has not been movement on this issue for four years and it seems
likely that other avenues have been used for the addition of lexemes on Wikidata, where there has been a desire to do so: https://wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata_talk:Lexicographical_data/Archive/2019/05
Such as https://wikidata.org/wiki/User:Yurik/Lexicator https://github.com/nyurik/lexicator Other tools may be mentioned in the revision histories of various
lexemes.
It is, however, meant to be possible to "use lexeme, form and sense IDs
as statement values, and "edit statements of lexemes, forms and senses" in QS: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/R2010:d4bbd816e688d910d28617acf22a8ecc2a72...
as noted in
https://wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat/Archive/2018/10#QuickStateme...
It may necessary to add a line like this to config.json in the factgrid
section to do this: https://github.com/magnusmanske/quickstatements/blob/c4b2c6b086b319aa32dcdd7...
In addition I read that this may not work in background batches; there
may be other issues: https://wikidata.org/wiki/Help_talk:QuickStatements/Archive_1#Lexeme (some of them appear to have been issues in Wikibase itself, now fixed).
I'm not a regular QS user; if anyone has more information in this area,
please feel free to chime in.
Best regards,
Laurence 'GreenReaper' Parry - WBUG https://GreenReaper.co.uk
From: Olaf Simons olaf.simons@pierre-marteau.com Sent: Monday, July 10, 2023 11:56:46 AM To: Wikibase Community User Group wikibaseug@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikibase] creating Lexemes with QuickStatements
Dear all,
I am wondering how to create Lexemes on our Wikibase, FactGrid, with
QuickStatements - is there anyone who could teach me the trick?
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:QuickStatements
...does not quite tell me.
Best, Olaf
Dr. Olaf Simons Forschungszentrum Gotha der Universität Erfurt Am Schlossberg 2 99867 Gotha Büro: +49-361-737-1722 Mobil: +49-179-5196880 Privat: Hauptmarkt 17b/ 99867 Gotha _______________________________________________ Wikibase Community User Group mailing list --
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