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Amsterdam Hackathon 2013
by Maarten Dammers 09 Jan '13

09 Jan '13

Hi everyone, Unlike previous years the big European Hackathon won't be in Berlin, but in Amsterdam. We're aiming to do the hackathon in May 2013 with a preference for the weekend of Saturday the 25th. To make sure this is a good weekend I've set up a straw poll at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Amsterdam_Hackathon_2013#Straw_Poll . Please fill it out so we can finalize the date! Thank you, Maarten Wikimedia Nederland Ps. Please forward to any relevant lists I might have missed.

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Can't explain queries?
by Aaron Halfaker 04 Jan '13

04 Jan '13

Hello, I've been working on a new script that will access the MySQL database. In testing this script, I was worried about the complexity of some of my queries, so I naturally went to the MySQL client and ran them with "explain". It appears that I do not have permission to do so. Is this intended? Is something wrong? *EXPLAIN/SHOW can not be issued; lacking privileges for underlying table* See session snippet below: grphack@willow:~$ mysql -h enwiki-p.userdb.toolserver.org enwiki_p Server version: 5.1.66 Source distribution Type 'help;' or '\h' for help. Type '\c' to clear the current input statement. mysql> explain select * from revision; ERROR 1345 (HY000): EXPLAIN/SHOW can not be issued; lacking privileges for underlying table Thanks! -Aaron

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JIRA Account Creation Failing
by Samuel Damashek 01 Jan '13

01 Jan '13

Hello Everybody! Happy New Years to everybody. I'm trying to create a JIRA account to then request a toolserver account to run a bot (VoxelBot from enwiki) on the server. However, when I try to make a JIRA account, I get this error: A system error occurred while creating your user account. For further assistance, please contact your JIRA administrators<https://jira.toolserver.org/secure/ContactAdministrators!default.jspa> . Furthermore, the contact administrators link is also broken. It says that tool isn't set up yet. Is there something I'm doing wrong? -- Samuel Damashek

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Status of enwiki_p databases
by MZMcBride 31 Dec '12

31 Dec '12

Hi. As far as I'm aware, enwiki_p on both rosemary and thyme is corrupt. Is there an update about getting a fresh dump and re-import? I looked at <http://status.toolserver.org/>, but it seems to (still) wrongly indicate that everything is okay. <https://jira.toolserver.org/browse/TS-1414> has been open since June 2012. MZMcBride

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Merry Christmas
by DaB. 31 Dec '12

31 Dec '12

Hello all, 2012 was not very kind to the Toolserver and 2013 will not be much better. But nevertheless we have got dozen of new users and even more new tools, so 2012 had also its good parts :-). I wish you all a Merry Christmas. Enjoy nice presents and good food, and lets hope that the non-favored relatives stay not that long ;-). Sincerely, DaB. -- Userpage: [[:w:de:User:DaB.]] — PGP: 2B255885

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cronie / SGE errors
by Bryan Tong Minh 23 Dec '12

23 Dec '12

Hi, I am sometimes having problems submitting jobs to SGE via cronie. In these cases the jobs appear to not submit properly. For example, /home/project/d/e/l/delinker/cdh.e1028584 shows the following error: /usr/bin/cgcreate: can't create cgroup users/delinker/1028584-undefined: Cgroup, operation not allowed cgroup change of group failed /usr/bin/cgdelete: cannot remove group 'users/delinker/1028584-undefined': No such file or directory The cronie entry is: */3 * * * * qcronsub -l h_rt=0:35:00 -l arch=* -l virtual_free=100M -N cd $HOME/bin/start-cd It appears to not always to be a problem. Does anybody know what is going on here? Bryan

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Sumana Harihareswara as tools community liaison for Labs
by Sumana Harihareswara 21 Dec '12

21 Dec '12

I'm now acting as community liaison for bots and tools makers, including Toolserver users, who are interested in trying Wikimedia Labs. This means I am specifically interested in the Tool Labs environments (which are currently the "bots" and "webtools" Labs projects). So starting next week, I'll be collating and sorting the feedback that's been sent on these lists and listed elsewhere, improving documentation, leading live or asynchronous feedback and training sessions, and helping prioritize and add details to TODO lists for people who want to work on improving the Tool Labs environment. For example, https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Move_your_bot_to_Labs will get better. :-) I expect to perform this role through at least the autumn of 2013. I just had a chat with Ryan Lane, CT Woo, and Erik Moeller today to solidify details about that so I could announce it to you. :-) Ryan remains the technical lead on Wikimedia Labs *infrastructure* (the foundation that serves all Labs projects). I'm looking forward to working with Wikimedia Germany, other Toolserver supporters, DaB., and the tools and bots communities to help improve their experience. -- Sumana Harihareswara Engineering Community Manager Wikimedia Foundation

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My meeting with Denis Barthel today
by DaB. 21 Dec '12

21 Dec '12

Hello all, I just came back from a meeting with Denis Barthel. Denis is a long-time employee of Wikimedia Deutschland (WMDE) and works in the resort "Community". Denis was assigned to help to normalize the relationship between the Toolserver, WMDE and the Wikimedia Foundation (WMF); especially in the field of WikiLabs/Toollabs. His opinion is that if we all work together the move from the toolserver to Wikilabs can work. I still doubt that, but I agreed to give WMF a little more AGF (assume good faith). As you know the general meeting of WMDE decided that the WMF has to guarantee that the features of the toolserver exists in WikiLabs within 6 months (otherwise WMDE has to look for a way to continue the toolserver). Denis asked me to provide such a list of short-time-base. For this I will take our list [1] and convert the items into "needed features" (AFAIS most of the points are already features). When I am done with this I will send you the link and you all can add features I forgot. In the beginning of the new year WMDE will give WMF the list and then the 6 months start. WMDE (or WMDE together with WMF) plans to offer help for moving tools to WikiLabs in 2013 – during the 6 months and behind if WMF can provide all needed features. I rejected to help with that behind very basic actions (like answering questions by WMF-staff). So if you plan to move your stuff, please notice that I will not wait on the other side and catch you ;-). I also make it very clear that the only way to move a tool is by the author because you are the only persons who can adapt the code (the special case that another user plan to adopt an open-source-tool aside). To re-phrase it: I have no problem if somebody likes to move to WikiLabs now and I will help him or her as best as I can – but only on the toolserver-side. There will be no support by me (and I guess the same for Nosy) on the WikiLabs-side – there you have to work with the WMF-folks. Just to let you known. Sincerely, DaB. P.S: Denis asked if there is a list of (important) tools. AFAIK we have none, but maybe we should find a way to build such a list in medium-term. [1] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Labs/Toolserver_features_wanted -- Userpage: [[:w:de:User:DaB.]] — PGP: 2B255885

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Datacenter Maintenance tomorrow
by Marlen Caemmerer 18 Dec '12

18 Dec '12

Hello, tomorrow will be hardware maintenance for toolserver. It will be between 11 am - 20 pm UTC. Several hosts may be offline for a little while during this time - especially daphne (s4) and hyacinth (s3, s6 and s7). They get some hardware replacements. The OSM host ptolemy might go offline for new hardware, too. Cheers Marlen/nosy

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JIRA session loss
by Krinkle 17 Dec '12

17 Dec '12

Hi, I'm trying go through some issues on JIRA and it keeps logging me out every few minutes. At some point I even logged in, clicked an issue, clicked Edit (which uses AJAX) and then the Edit screen wouldn't load due to me not being authenticated (while I still saw my nickname on the top right). -- Krinkle

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