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Wikidata-Maintenance at s7 and daphne and z-dat-s2-b
by DaB. 25 Jun '13

25 Jun '13

Hello all, the copies of wikidata at daphne (commons) and z-dat-s2-b (s2) are so outdated that the WMF has no masterlogs for them anymore. To fix this I will dump a copy of wikidata from s7 and reimport it. I plan to do this on FRIDAY, 14:00 UTC. During the dump the replication of wikidata at s7 will stop. During the import at z-dat-s2-b and daphne there will be not wikidata at these hosts. I have no idea how long the hole thing will take, but you can follow the progress at [1]. Sincerely, DaB. [1] https://jira.toolserver.org/browse/MNT-1327 -- PGP: 0x2d3ee2d42b255885

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Fwd: [Wiki-research-l] WikiDashboard down - anyone knows how to contact people at PARC who developed it?
by Samuel Klein 15 Jun '13

15 Jun '13

Are tools in expired user accounts backed up? If a user disappears for a year and then comes back this time next year, will they be able to find their code and data? Regards, SJ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Piotr Konieczny <piokon(a)post.pl> Date: Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 7:53 AM Subject: [Wiki-research-l] WikiDashboard down - anyone knows how to contact people at PARC who developed it? To: wiki-research-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org For the last week or so I am getting the following error when trying to use the http://wikidashboard.appspot.com/ tool: "403: User account expired. The page you requested is hosted by the Toolserver user wiki_researcher, whose account has expired. Toolserver user accounts are automatically expired if the user is inactive for over six months. To prevent stale pages remaining accessible, we automatically block requests to expired content. If you think you are receiving this page in error, or you have a question, please contact the owner of this document: wiki_researcher [at] toolserver [dot] org. (Please do not contact Toolserver administrators about this problem, as we cannot fix it—only the Toolserver account owner may renew their account.)" I've tried contacting the owner, and send an email to PARC (it's their project, per the logo seen at the project page ) through their web form, but so far - nothing. Can anyone help to contact them? The tool is useful not only for research (I've used and I am sure so have others here); it is also one of the tools used by Good Article reviewers (and linked from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Good_article_tools) Why we allow toolserver tools used by the community to expire in such a confusing way is beyond me. -- Piotr Konieczny, PhD http://hanyang.academia.edu/PiotrKonieczny http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=gdV8_AEAAAAJ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Piotrus _______________________________________________ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l -- Samuel Klein @metasj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266

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Maintenance of LDAP tomorrow
by Marlen Caemmerer 13 Jun '13

13 Jun '13

Hello, the new LDAP service is ready and will be switched on tomorrow. This will happen at Friday (tomorrow), 19:00 UTC - 21:00 UTC short offline times for services like ssh, mail and web are to be expected. Cheers Marlen/nosy

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JIRA should work again
by DaB. 12 Jun '13

12 Jun '13

Hello all, amette reported yesterday that he found the problem with our JIRA-installation and created a quick-fix to solve it. As far as I see everything seems to works again. Give him some cheering! Please be so nice and do some testing too in JIRA, close bugs that were fixed and create new ones if you find a problem. Sincerely, DaB. -- Benutzerseite: [[:w:de:User:DaB.]] — PGP: 0x2d3ee2d42b255885

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SQL S1
by John 03 Jun '13

03 Jun '13

I am getting a ERROR 2003 (HY000): when trying to connect. John

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Status update on Tool Labs
by Silke Meyer 02 Jun '13

02 Jun '13

Hello to all tool maintainers! It was good to see several of you in person this weekend! Faces ftw! :) Here is a status update with what is now working in Tool Labs: First of all (looking at DaB.s survey and your comments): You _don't_ have to care about virtual instances, puppet or any of this. This is underneath/behind Tool Labs but you can just use the login server without having to know about it. What you get: * login server made to resemble the toolserver * database replicas from s1-s6, s7 is following in June. Access to all data you can access as a registered, unprivileged user. * possibility to create your own user databases * shared project storage, home directories (nfs) * possibility to add maintainers to your project via the web interface on http://tools.wmflabs.org/ * possibility to restore your files to the state they were in 1, 2, 3 hours ago, 1, 2, 3 days ago and on the last 2 Sundays. * infrastructure to run web services * job system: OpenGridengine * two different environments to develop tools in: "Tools" project which is a stable environment, "Bots" project which can be used for experiments with the environment, root access is possible in the latter. * bug tracking in WMF's Bugzilla (product: Wikimedia Labs, components: bots and tools for the two projects) * more stuff that is mentioned in the road map (link below). What we are still on: * documentation (let's crowdsource this!) * make Merlissimo's MerlLinkBot hunt down deprecated weblinks and point them to your tools' new URL. Looking for things you can help with? * Write down you experiences like some already did: Magnus Manske: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Magnus_Manske/Migrating_from_tools… or Russell Blau: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Russell_Blau/Using_pywikibot_on_La… * Help to improve the user interface of tools.wmflabs.org! Contact Coren/Marc-Andre Pelletier. Links: Tool Labs help: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Tools/Help FAQ (ongoing collection of what you ask): http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Labs/Migration_of_Toolserver_tools Road map: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Tool_Labs/Roadmap_en (English) and http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Tool_Labs/Roadmap_de (German) What's next? Please come and try out the new database replication! If your tool is up and running in Tool Labs, _please consider documenting_ what you missed in the docs. By doing so you will help others a lot! Don't hesitate to ask! The best places to ask questions: * IRC (#wikimedia-labs), where Coren and petan (as Tool Labs admins) and many other experienced people hang around * the list labs-l (https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/labs-l) Do your tools need more adaptations than you think you can do? Wouldn't mind a helping hand? Ask me and I'll try to find you a helper! Best, Silke -- Silke Meyer Internes IT-Management und Projektmanagement Toolserver Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.

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My fading out
by DaB. 31 May '13

31 May '13

Hello guys, I just extended my personal account until 5. January of 2014 – it is the last time I do this. At this day I will also remove my access as root of the Toolserver. Beginning of 1. July I will start my fade out, doing less and less work for the Toolserver until I am not longer visible. I announce that this early because I think it is fair for you to know that will happen and I like not just to vanish like some roots before. There are 4 main factors why I decided to not continue my work until the end of the Toolserver in December 2014. Reason 1 is that the Toolserver now has a second paid root and 6 months will be enough to teach amette and nosy what I know about the Toolserver. Reason 2 is that there was no real investment in the Toolserver in the first 6 months of 2013 and I very doubt that there will ever be any in the second half or beyond. Reason 3 is that I learned during the last weekend that the support of the Toolserver in the board of WMDE reached its minimum. One board-member announced publicly during the general meeting of WMDE that it is good that there is a timetable for the Toolserver now – I know only 1 timetable for the Toolserver and that’s Silke’s <s>plan of destruction</s> roadmap for migration [1]. Another board-member told me during a chatting in the halls that ToolLabs (or the move to) is "klasse" (~great). It is impossible to improve the Toolserver against the CEO *and* the board of WMDE. Reason 4 are you, the tool-authors. The participation in my survey [2] was pitiful low and the majority of these few who voted, voted to leave the Toolserver as soon as possible or this year – a trend that was already visible on the mailing-list before. So I conclude that the most of you don’t care and whose care will leave this year. While I asked for documentation (or at least correction) in the toolserver- wikis for years, nearly nothing ever happened. But now that ToolLabs is on the horizon you write documentation for THAT – freely. And it is really a joke to compare the empty new database-servers of ToolLabs with our old and heavy loaded servers for performance. Let’s see how fast they are if 10 slow queries, which had run for hours, run in parallel. With very few exceptions none of you helped to protect the Toolserver against ToolLabs; all you were interested in was that ToolLabs provides the same environment so your tools can continue to run there. When I read such phrases like "we have to stabilize the Toolserver until Labs is ready" or now "we need the Toolserver for redirects to ToolLabs" I could vomit! I promised in November 2012 that I will stay for another year and I will fulfill that promise – but not a day longer. There is no point in fighting for something if the something has already surrendered and no support is there (not from you, the toolusers, the board of WMDE, the CEO of WMDE or the general meeting of WMDE). These of you who are able to move to ToolLabs I wish luck. Let’s hope that the WMF does not decide to "re-focus" again too soon. Let’s hope that the WMF does not disable tools just because there are a little slow. Let’s hope that the WMF does not restrict the database-tables even more. Let’s hope that the WMF does not kick the volunteers out completely some days like they did with the WMF-wiki-admins some weeks ago. And hoping is all we can do, because the WMF is a undemocratic construct and ToolLabs is lead by paid roots, so whatever the WMF staff decides will happen. Maybe if one of these things happen you will remember the tiny, slow, unstable, but free Toolserver — but it will not be there anymore. Sincerely, DaB. [1] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Tool_Labs/Roadmap_en [2] https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Labs-Moving-Survey -- Userpage: [[:w:de:User:DaB.]] — PGP: 0x2d3ee2d42b255885

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Linux/Solaris Lua on Toolserver: is it possible?
by Alex Brollo 31 May '13

31 May '13

While painfully studying one more language :-( (Lua... ) I saw that it can run into any SO and that it has CGI interface (tell me if I'm wrong). What about building a Lua bot framework or - at least - install Lua into Toolserver? Is it a crazy idea? Perhaps using the same language in two settings (modules and server scripst) could be useful. Alex brollo

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Maintenance s1-user commons
by Marlen Caemmerer 28 May '13

28 May '13

Hello, unfortunatelly the commons copy on s1-user got terribly broken so I have to resetup this DB. But I do have another copy of s4 on z-dat-s4-a that I will use for dumping (I will have to stop replication in the mean time) I will do this on Friday after 7 pm UTC which mean commons will not be available on this host until resetup has finished. Cheers Marlen/nosy

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glamorous / page views?
by rupert THURNER 28 May '13

28 May '13

hi, we had a small pilot with the zentralbibliothek zürich, and would like to sum up the results a little bit. one tool very helpful for this is glamorous, from magnus: http://toolserver.org/~magnus/ts2/glamorous/?mode=category&text=Media%20con… there is a button which says "pageview", but i am unsure if this works, or how this works? rupert.

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