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Re: [Toolserver-l] [Labs-l] DB replication monopoly or not
by Luis Villa 16 Sep '13

16 Sep '13

On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 9:50 PM, Leslie Carr <lcarr(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 1:19 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) <nemowiki(a)gmail.com>wrote: > >> Just spotted this ( >> http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/toolserver-l/2013-August/006260.html): >> >> ---- >> >> > > I'm more than happy to recommend a number of cloud services and am >> > > more than willing to give advice on how to configure and run tools >> > > and bots from those services. It's even possible to reuse the work >> > > we're doing in the tools project, or in the Wikimedia infrastructure >> > > via our puppet repository since our infrastructure is Open Source. >> > >> > Very nice idea – how I get the mysql-replication-stream? I got several >> > offers of donation if the Toolserver would continue; the only problem is >> > the replication-data. But because the data is open-source, it shouldn’t >> > be a problem than, should it? >> > >> > >> >> Assuming you found a non-profit, host your infrastructure somewhere that >> doesn't cause legal issues and every person that has access to the data >> stream signs an NDA it's likely doable. >> >> ---- >> >> Can WMF please confirm that this is the case and it wasn't a boutade? If >> yes, could you indicate a single point of contact interested parties can >> negotiate such an arrangement with? >> (See also the first unanswered question by Sj at < >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Future_of_Toolserver#September_2012 >> >.) >> >> Generically, legal(a)wikimedia.org would be the point of contact for > anything like that. > > I think there is some historical context here I'm missing, so I'm looking into it, but can't promise an answer particularly quickly. Luis -- Luis Villa Deputy General Counsel Wikimedia Foundation 415.839.6885 ext. 6810 NOTICE: *This message may be confidential or legally privileged. If you have received it by accident, please delete it and let us know about the mistake. As an attorney for the Wikimedia Foundation, for legal/ethical reasons I cannot give legal advice to, or serve as a lawyer for, community members, volunteers, or staff members in their personal capacity.*

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Linux-Maintenance next Friday and upgrade-announcement
by DaB. 13 Sep '13

13 Sep '13

Hello all, next FRIDAY, 13. September 19:00-22:00 UTC I will update our Linux-hosts with all non-critical updates that happened since the last maintenance-window. This will include the userland-hosts and the database-servers. Several downtimes may occur during that window. After the update I will prepare the upgrade from Debian Squeeeze (oldstable) to Debian Wheezy (stable). The upgrade will surely break some stuff, because several important packages will switch to a new major release (for example perl from 5.10 to 5.14, php from 5.3 to 5.4). I will send a further mail after Friday with details. The upgrade is planed to happen 1 or 2 weeks later. Sincerely, DaB.

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Investigation on migrating Jira to Bugzilla - any volunteers around?
by Silke Meyer 11 Sep '13

11 Sep '13

Hi all! Today WMFs bug wrangler Andre Klapper visited our office and gave a Q&A session about Bugzilla. Together with Daniel Kinzler, we discussed the question if it's possible to migrate your tickets from Jira to Bugzilla. (For all tools, that would be about 1100 open tickets at the moment, open, reopened, in progress.) The last status of the discussion (according to [1]): * Tool maintainers can request their own bugzilla "component". * There doesn't seem to be a tool to migrate, so someone would have to write and test it. * Does it make sense to migrate tickets related to the toolserver environment, not to the tool itself? (Tim: Yes, because of the historical value) Andre gave me these hints for an investigation: (Don't laugh, maybe you know all this already.) * Jira has a REST API, Bugzilla doesn't. * Bugzilla has a json rpc (example: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/jsonrpc.cgi?method=Bugzilla.extensions) * It's not likely that all fields can be transferred, it might be a good idea to concentrate on the tool name and the status. * To import tickets, Andre would take a list of all users that want their tickets in Bugzilla but don't have an account. He could then create the list of account IDs that the tickets are associated with. Existing similar things the could help to find out more are below. Now, I would like to know if there is anyone among you who would like to investigate this further or has experience reports to pass along. Best, Silke Links: [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Labs/Toolserver_features_needed_in… Migrating report (2011): http://www.bdunagan.com/2011/11/07/migrating-jira-to-bugzilla/ Pywikipediabot (Sourceforge -> Bugzilla) https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Pywikipediabot/Migrating_to_bugzilla Mingle -> Bugzilla: https://github.com/awjrichards/bingle -- Silke Meyer Internes IT-Management und Projektmanagement Toolserver Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.

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Maintenance for DB cluster s2 : Resetup of commons
by Marlen Caemmerer 10 Sep '13

10 Sep '13

Hello, the copy of the commons database in the s2 database cluster is broken - it is missing tables. I have to get a copy of commons, drop the old commons copy and reinsert it. I will drop and reinsert it starting on Friday, 13th Sept 7 pm UTC Cheers Marlen/nosy

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outbound data [was Re: Hem hem... PLEASE let's move forward!]
by Luis Villa 09 Sep '13

09 Sep '13

On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 2:52 AM, Silke Meyer <silke.meyer(a)wikimedia.de>wrote: > > For non-libre projects I would like to come back to what Ryan wrote: > > Or people are free to move them to infrastructure that isn't funded by > the donations to a movement that has Open Content as one of the five > pillars <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_is_free_content>. > The tools and bots that keep this content alive and free are in my opinion > an extension of that pillar. > > > > I'm more than happy to recommend a number of cloud services and am more > than willing to give advice on how to configure and run tools and bots from > those services. It's even possible to reuse the work we're doing in the > tools project, or in the Wikimedia infrastructure via our puppet repository > since our infrastructure is Open Source. > > Ryan, Luis, could you write a bit more about whether it would be ok > (technically and legally) to run database queries in Tool Labs and send > them to an external server where a proprietary tool runs? Is that a no > go? An exception? Is it totally fine? No concerns from legal side - the same privacy protections that are already in place should be enough to handle this use case. [We of course have to monitor and make sure we're doing the right things, privacy-wise, but that was already the case anyway.] Luis -- Luis Villa Deputy General Counsel Wikimedia Foundation 415.839.6885 ext. 6810 NOTICE: *This message may be confidential or legally privileged. If you have received it by accident, please delete it and let us know about the mistake. As an attorney for the Wikimedia Foundation, for legal/ethical reasons I cannot give legal advice to, or serve as a lawyer for, community members, volunteers, or staff members in their personal capacity.*

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Cron
by John 06 Sep '13

06 Sep '13

Looks like cron is down again

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Maintenance: Solaris Updates
by Marlen Caemmerer 05 Sep '13

05 Sep '13

Hello, next week there will be Solaris updates done by Alex Mette and me. This means web servers, willow and submit/mail servers will be updated. We will do this on Wednesday, 11th Sept 7-10 pm UTC. Cheers Marlen/nosy

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Cronie jobs down on submit.toolserver.org?
by Krinkle 31 Aug '13

31 Aug '13

Hi, The cronie line at krinkle(a)submit.toolserver.org for KrinkleBot[1]: 3,18,33,48 * * * * python $HOME/externals/pywikipedia/fileprotectionsync_live.py > $HOME/bots/py_fileprotectionsync_live.log 2>&1 .. has not run for over 27 hours. I just ran it manually once[1], which made 4 edits. Are there known problems with it? -- Krinkle [1] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/KrinkleBot

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Tools using Google Maps and migration to Tool Labs
by Silke Meyer 27 Aug '13

27 Aug '13

Hi again, to take up a topic that was touched on at Wikimania and now discussed on labs-l: Is it allowed to migrate tools that use Google Maps? tl;dr: Hard to tell right now. Please provide examples! Ask about your tools, give details! Here is why: Marc-Andre Pelletier and Luis Villa explained the following: The tool would have to respect both the Labs Terms of Use and the Google Maps Terms of Use. This can mean users have to read and acknowledge a disclaimer before a tool can point to Google Maps. Without concrete examples this is hard to analyse. How exactly would this be used? If you want your tool to be looked at as an example please come to labs-l and present it. Kolossos also strongly recommended to look at open source tools like OpenLayers or Leaflet as alternatives to Google Maps. Most things can be solved with open stuff nowadays. Best, Silke -- Silke Meyer Internes IT-Management und Projektmanagement Toolserver Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.

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Question to all: Non-Wikipedia-Wikimedia-Mediawiki projects for Labs' ToU
by Silke Meyer 27 Aug '13

27 Aug '13

Dear tool maintainers! This is about the Terms of Use in Wikimedia Labs [1] and the projects that are invited to live in Labs/Tool Labs. If your tools are not explicitly related to Wikipedia-Wikimedia-Mediawiki projects, please answer this e-mail. The upcoming new version of the Terms of Use will add Openstreetmap to the (obvious) Wikipedia-Wikimedia-Mediawiki projects. I was asked if there are other free projects supported by your tools. I need your help to answer this question! If the Terms of Use tend to exclude your project because of the limitation to specific free projects, please let me know what your tool does. Thanks and cheers, Silke [1] https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikitech:Labs_Terms_of_use <https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikitech:Labs_Terms_of_use> -- Silke Meyer Internes IT-Management und Projektmanagement Toolserver Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.

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