Dear WSC,
I think we need to be very precise about what the Berkman controversy is about. My
understanding is that the use of banners with logo's on central notice during the
fundraiser and the kickback of donations is at the heart of the controversy. It is not
about the legitimacy of the research institutes, nor is it about surveys as a research
methodology, or the actual research questions. As such, I think that we need to discus how
to to promote research studies but not debate the merits of Wikipedia research itself.
Best
Diederik
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On 2011-12-12, at 13:30, WereSpielChequers <werespielchequers(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I'm comfortable with a meeting next week, but I
think that the community and our research partners will want to hear something in the
meantime. There would also be a benefit if we could hold some on wiki discussions as to
the Omnibus survey or any other option.
Clearly one of our options would be to run an RFC to seek consent of the EN wiki
community for us to resume Berkman and run similar things in the future. But even if we
promised some sort of vanilla advert for it I doubt we would get consensus or anything
close.
We could probably get consensus for an opt in research system so that those who wanted to
could subscribe to some sort of research mailing list of questionnaires. But I don't
think that opt in would give us the volume that researchers are likely to want and I fear
we'd have skews.
If anyone can think of an alternative option I would suggest creating a draft such as I
have at
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Omnibus_Survey so that we and the
community can consider it.
Another way to defuse current tension would be for Rcomm to invite a couple of the
people who have been arguing against the Berkman survey to join us in our meeting next
week.
Regards
WSC
On 12 December 2011 17:52, Dario Taraborelli <dtaraborelli(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
Hi WSC,
thanks for starting this, I agree we need to have a serious assessment of what happened
with the Berkman incident and discuss alternative options (if any) for the future.
I suggest that we hold an extraordinary RCom meeting some time next week to discuss these
measures since we have other SR requests on hold.
If nobody objects I am going to start a doodle to find a date that suits most of us
(cc:ing Dana). It'd be great if those among you heavily invested in SR
discussions/reviews could make it.
Dario
On Dec 12, 2011, at 6:50 AM, WereSpielChequers wrote:
Dear All,
After the rather hostile response on the English language wikipedia to the Berkman survey
I would like to revive my proposal from five months ago for an annual Omnibus survey.
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Omnibus_Survey
I appreciate that this would put some constraints on the researchers and would actually
cost the Foundation a bit of money. But unless someone else can come up with an
alternative way of fairly throttling research surveys to the point where the community can
accept them, I would suggest that this is the only viable option on the table other than
a simple blanket ban on third party research surveys.
Regards
WereSpielChequers
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