Bugs item #2096916, was opened at 2008-09-06 13:31
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Category: interwiki
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Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 5
Private: No
Submitted By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: Grammatically incorrect Esperanto edit summary
Initial Comment:
There has been a pywikipedia bot running on Esperanto Wiktionary that has been using grammatically incorrect edit summaries. I was told by the bot operator that while s/he could fix it in his/her source, the problem also needs to be fixed in the pywikipedia framework.
This is an example of an edit summary currently produced by the framework (more or less):
roboto aldono de: en, fi, fr, hu, it, ja, ko, ku, pl, ru
It should be:
aldoni: en, fi, fr, hu, it, ja, ko, ku, pl, ru
-- wikipedia:en:User:Dtrebbien
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Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Date: 2008-09-14 18:51
Message:
Devus esti :
roboto aldonis :
robota aldono de :
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Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Date: 2008-09-14 14:21
Message:
I have made a request at Esperanto Wikipedia at
http://eo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipedio:Diskutejo#Peto_por_asistado_kun_trad…
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Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Date: 2008-09-07 13:32
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Comment: "aldono" is more like "something that was added", or "appendix".
So, "aldono de" is "appendix of".
-- wikipedia:en:User:Dtrebbien
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Comment By: Melancholie (melancholie)
Date: 2008-09-07 07:18
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Note for non-Esperanto speakers:
The grammatical incorrectness is "roboto aldono de" because this actually
means "robot addition of".
Maybe let's just add a ":"? Meaning "roboto: aldono de: en, de, fr"
(before changing summaries to the verb form, asking at
http://eo.wikipedia.org/ would be recommendable (whether it's desired)).
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Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Date: 2008-09-07 01:18
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Hi spacebirdy,
Yes, the others are incorrect. I believe that the idea here was to use a
participle, and there are several ways of translating English participles
into Esperanto, depending on what one wants to say.
If you want to say "A robot is adding ..." in this context, you say
"roboto aldonas ...". "adding ..." is "aldoni ...", which is what I suggest
(leaving off the subject, robot) because it is more simple and less
stilted.
"A robot is modifying ..." is "roboto modifas ...". Alternatively,
"modifying ..." is "modifi ...".
"A robot is removing ..." is "roboto forigas ...". Alternatively,
"removing ..." is "forigi ...".
-- wikipedia:en:User:Dtrebbien
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Comment By: ulana merops (spacebirdy)
Date: 2008-09-07 00:49
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Hello, are the other translations then incorrect too?
from interwiki.py:
'eo': (u'roboto ', u'aldono de', u'forigo de', u'modifo de'),
"forigo de"
and
"modifo de"?
thanks for Your help, best regards
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Bugs item #1633513, was opened at 2007-01-11 21:20
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Category: interwiki
Group: None
>Status: Closed
Resolution: None
Priority: 5
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Submitted By: tuvic (tuvic)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: Interwiki.py graphs when in autonomous mode
Initial Comment:
The interwiki-bot tries to make graphs when it's in autonomous mode, if you have the option interwiki-graphs switched on.
It shouldn't do that, because it destroys the autonomous behavior.
>>if config.interwiki_graph:<<
on line 745 of the code (r 1.343) should be changed to
>>if config.interwiki_graph and (not globalvar.autonomous):<<
Greetings, Tuvic
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>Comment By: tuvic (tuvic)
Date: 2008-09-14 16:28
Message:
The report can be closed: apparently, it's not really an issue. I don't
even know why exactly I filed the report.
Greetings, Tuvic
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Comment By: Andr Malafaya Baptista (malafaya)
Date: 2008-09-09 18:09
Message:
As for me, I find it useful even in autonomous mode.
Sometimes, I just process a full category in autonomous mode and check the
graphs later.
In my opinion, the option of creating graphs in autonomous mode should be
left to the operator (i.e., leave the feature as it is now).
P.S. should this bug be closed? it's been more than 18 months since it was
opened.
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Comment By: tuvic (tuvic)
Date: 2007-01-12 16:20
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I'm sorry, I forgot I had put in a little piece of code that first asks
before creating a graph.
So, it doesn't destroy the autonomous mode, but it will use up a lot
(sometimes a gigantic amount) of cpu unnecessary.
It creates graphs while you can't do anything with them at that point, and
most likely the situation will have changed when you run a manual bot the
next time.
Greetings, Tuvic
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Comment By: Daniel Herding (wikipedian)
Date: 2007-01-12 12:50
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Why does it destroy autonomous behaviour? Creating graphs is done fully
automatic.
I think the real problem here is that creating graphs takes too long.
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Bugs item #2096916, was opened at 2008-09-06 13:31
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Category: interwiki
Group: None
Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 5
Private: No
Submitted By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: Grammatically incorrect Esperanto edit summary
Initial Comment:
There has been a pywikipedia bot running on Esperanto Wiktionary that has been using grammatically incorrect edit summaries. I was told by the bot operator that while s/he could fix it in his/her source, the problem also needs to be fixed in the pywikipedia framework.
This is an example of an edit summary currently produced by the framework (more or less):
roboto aldono de: en, fi, fr, hu, it, ja, ko, ku, pl, ru
It should be:
aldoni: en, fi, fr, hu, it, ja, ko, ku, pl, ru
-- wikipedia:en:User:Dtrebbien
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Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Date: 2008-09-14 14:21
Message:
I have made a request at Esperanto Wikipedia at
http://eo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipedio:Diskutejo#Peto_por_asistado_kun_trad…
.
-- wikipedia:en:User:Dtrebbien
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Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Date: 2008-09-07 13:32
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Comment: "aldono" is more like "something that was added", or "appendix".
So, "aldono de" is "appendix of".
-- wikipedia:en:User:Dtrebbien
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Comment By: Melancholie (melancholie)
Date: 2008-09-07 07:18
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Note for non-Esperanto speakers:
The grammatical incorrectness is "roboto aldono de" because this actually
means "robot addition of".
Maybe let's just add a ":"? Meaning "roboto: aldono de: en, de, fr"
(before changing summaries to the verb form, asking at
http://eo.wikipedia.org/ would be recommendable (whether it's desired)).
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Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Date: 2008-09-07 01:18
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Hi spacebirdy,
Yes, the others are incorrect. I believe that the idea here was to use a
participle, and there are several ways of translating English participles
into Esperanto, depending on what one wants to say.
If you want to say "A robot is adding ..." in this context, you say
"roboto aldonas ...". "adding ..." is "aldoni ...", which is what I suggest
(leaving off the subject, robot) because it is more simple and less
stilted.
"A robot is modifying ..." is "roboto modifas ...". Alternatively,
"modifying ..." is "modifi ...".
"A robot is removing ..." is "roboto forigas ...". Alternatively,
"removing ..." is "forigi ...".
-- wikipedia:en:User:Dtrebbien
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Comment By: ulana merops (spacebirdy)
Date: 2008-09-07 00:49
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Hello, are the other translations then incorrect too?
from interwiki.py:
'eo': (u'roboto ', u'aldono de', u'forigo de', u'modifo de'),
"forigo de"
and
"modifo de"?
thanks for Your help, best regards
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Bugs item #2110095, was opened at 2008-09-14 11:46
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Category: interwiki
Group: None
Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 5
Private: No
Submitted By: euku (eugo)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: "[[zh:????]] does not exist" but is does!
Initial Comment:
Pywikipedia [http] trunk/pywikipedia (r5894, Sep 13 2008, 17:27:38)
Python 2.4.4 (#2, Apr 15 2008, 23:43:20)
[GCC 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-21)]
Hello,
my bot checked ru: , - on ru-WP for interwiki links and found an invalid link to zh-WP and removed it. But this link is valid as you can see. Why does this happen?
Best regards,
Euku
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python interwiki.py "-start:%D0%94%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%B0%D1%88%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%85_%D0%B4%D1%83%D1%85%D0%BE%D0%B2_%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%83%D0%B2,_%D0%B4%D1%83%D1%88%D0%B0_%D0%A6%D1%8F%D0%BD%D1%8C-%D0%BD%D1%8E%D0%B9_%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0%D1%91%D1%82%D1%81%D1%8F_%D1%81_%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%BC" "-number:1" -lang:ru
Checked for running processes. 1 processes currently running, including the current process.
NOTE: Number of pages queued is 0, trying to add 60 more.
Getting 1 pages from wikipedia:ru...
Getting 1 pages from wikipedia:zh...
NOTE: [[zh:????]] does not exist
======Post-processing [[ru:Domashnikh dukhov obmanuv, dusha Cyan'-nyuj rasstatsya s telom]]======
Updating links on page [[ru:Domashnikh dukhov obmanuv, dusha Cyan'-nyuj rasstatsya s telom]].
Changes to be made: udalil: [[zh:????]]
- [[zh:????]]
ERROR: Found incorrect link to zh in [[ru:Domashnikh dukhov obmanuv, dusha Cyan'-nyuj rasstatsya s telom]]
Submit? ([y]es, [n]o, [g]ive up)
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>Comment By: euku (eugo)
Date: 2008-09-14 12:17
Message:
Thanks. But there should be a general solution for this. Is it a MediaWiki
bug or should the bot know about all distinctions made on WP-Projects?
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Comment By: Andre Engels (a_engels)
Date: 2008-09-14 12:08
Message:
It has to do with the zh-traditional/zh-simplified distinction. In normal
MediaWiki usage, both the simplified and the traditional orthography of
Chinese work, but the bot uses [[Special:Export]], which only works for
simplified Chinese.
If you change the link from [[zh:]] to [[zh:]],
you still go to the same page, but the link will work for the bot as well.
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Bugs item #2110095, was opened at 2008-09-14 11:46
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Category: interwiki
Group: None
Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 5
Private: No
Submitted By: euku (eugo)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: "[[zh:????]] does not exist" but is does!
Initial Comment:
Pywikipedia [http] trunk/pywikipedia (r5894, Sep 13 2008, 17:27:38)
Python 2.4.4 (#2, Apr 15 2008, 23:43:20)
[GCC 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-21)]
Hello,
my bot checked ru: , - on ru-WP for interwiki links and found an invalid link to zh-WP and removed it. But this link is valid as you can see. Why does this happen?
Best regards,
Euku
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python interwiki.py "-start:%D0%94%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%B0%D1%88%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%85_%D0%B4%D1%83%D1%85%D0%BE%D0%B2_%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%83%D0%B2,_%D0%B4%D1%83%D1%88%D0%B0_%D0%A6%D1%8F%D0%BD%D1%8C-%D0%BD%D1%8E%D0%B9_%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0%D1%91%D1%82%D1%81%D1%8F_%D1%81_%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%BC" "-number:1" -lang:ru
Checked for running processes. 1 processes currently running, including the current process.
NOTE: Number of pages queued is 0, trying to add 60 more.
Getting 1 pages from wikipedia:ru...
Getting 1 pages from wikipedia:zh...
NOTE: [[zh:????]] does not exist
======Post-processing [[ru:Domashnikh dukhov obmanuv, dusha Cyan'-nyuj rasstatsya s telom]]======
Updating links on page [[ru:Domashnikh dukhov obmanuv, dusha Cyan'-nyuj rasstatsya s telom]].
Changes to be made: udalil: [[zh:????]]
- [[zh:????]]
ERROR: Found incorrect link to zh in [[ru:Domashnikh dukhov obmanuv, dusha Cyan'-nyuj rasstatsya s telom]]
Submit? ([y]es, [n]o, [g]ive up)
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>Comment By: Andre Engels (a_engels)
Date: 2008-09-14 12:08
Message:
It has to do with the zh-traditional/zh-simplified distinction. In normal
MediaWiki usage, both the simplified and the traditional orthography of
Chinese work, but the bot uses [[Special:Export]], which only works for
simplified Chinese.
If you change the link from [[zh:]] to [[zh:]],
you still go to the same page, but the link will work for the bot as well.
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Bugs item #2110095, was opened at 2008-09-14 11:46
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Category: interwiki
Group: None
Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 5
Private: No
Submitted By: euku (eugo)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: "[[zh:????]] does not exist" but is does!
Initial Comment:
Pywikipedia [http] trunk/pywikipedia (r5894, Sep 13 2008, 17:27:38)
Python 2.4.4 (#2, Apr 15 2008, 23:43:20)
[GCC 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-21)]
Hello,
my bot checked ru: , - on ru-WP for interwiki links and found an invalid link to zh-WP and removed it. But this link is valid as you can see. Why does this happen?
Best regards,
Euku
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python interwiki.py "-start:%D0%94%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%B0%D1%88%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%85_%D0%B4%D1%83%D1%85%D0%BE%D0%B2_%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%83%D0%B2,_%D0%B4%D1%83%D1%88%D0%B0_%D0%A6%D1%8F%D0%BD%D1%8C-%D0%BD%D1%8E%D0%B9_%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0%D1%91%D1%82%D1%81%D1%8F_%D1%81_%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%BC" "-number:1" -lang:ru
Checked for running processes. 1 processes currently running, including the current process.
NOTE: Number of pages queued is 0, trying to add 60 more.
Getting 1 pages from wikipedia:ru...
Getting 1 pages from wikipedia:zh...
NOTE: [[zh:????]] does not exist
======Post-processing [[ru:Domashnikh dukhov obmanuv, dusha Cyan'-nyuj rasstatsya s telom]]======
Updating links on page [[ru:Domashnikh dukhov obmanuv, dusha Cyan'-nyuj rasstatsya s telom]].
Changes to be made: udalil: [[zh:????]]
- [[zh:????]]
ERROR: Found incorrect link to zh in [[ru:Domashnikh dukhov obmanuv, dusha Cyan'-nyuj rasstatsya s telom]]
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Bugs item #2070151, was opened at 2008-08-23 23:09
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Category: interwiki
Group: None
>Status: Closed
>Resolution: Fixed
Priority: 5
Private: No
Submitted By: ulana merops (spacebirdy)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: readd om.wiktionary to wiktionary family
Initial Comment:
Dear all, please readd om.wiktionary to the family it had not been closed, and got activity lately. I would like to run my bot there.
Many thanks in advance.
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>Comment By: Rotem Liss (rotemliss)
Date: 2008-09-13 19:21
Message:
Added in r5893.
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Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Date: 2008-09-09 16:47
Message:
Sorry, It was wrongly listed as "Closed" in
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects it is fixed
now, please readd, thanks.
The person who reopened the request only reopened the first and forgot the
second link.
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Closure_of_Or…http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects
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Comment By: ulana merops (spacebirdy)
Date: 2008-09-07 03:52
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Please can this be fixed soon, I would like to use my bot there, I have no
idea how I can add it in the script myself, thanks.
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