Hi SJ, hi all,
the last input to this mailing list was made by SJ a day before the board meeting in October. Phoebe announced the minutes ( http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Minutes/2011-10-07 ) at the end of November and stated on internal-l that there where no decisions or votes regarding movement roles. Nothing else.
Is there something going on currently? Can we hear some of the voices of your board discussion? Are you planning next steps in the process? The preparation for the chapters meeting is going to begin soon. If the movement roles project still exists, there is no way to not present something or reanimate it at that meeting. What are we going to do?
Unfortunately I feel not only frustrated about the process but also uninformed about the current status. And I mean both, the status of the movement roles process (which doesn't really look like doing any kind of processing) and the status of this group. Is there still a group existing? Is there still interest in having a group (formerly called core team)? What are the tasks the group is responsible for? In my last mail I talked about burying and reanimation and more than then I would prefer to put an end to it at this stage and officially restart next year with a new team and defined roles and tasks.
If you want us/me/the chapters/the wm-universe to remain part of this, you need to give us more information. Please.
Regards, Alice.
I would like to echo Alice, and say that, I have been completely out of touch of any updates for the past few months. After the Berlin meeting, and the IRC discussion, I have not head a single conversation about Movement Roles. I saw that Sue referred to Movement roles 2 in an IRC meeting a couple of months ago, she was surprised that I was not aware, I had no idea there was a second iteration of Movement roles(still not sure). There has been little to no discussion about this, I wasn't informed about any discussions at Haifa or the presentation to the board. Like Alice, I'm frustrated by the lack of information and communication.
I did however, have a conversation with Bishakha about it very recently, we were planning on talking more about it next year since the holidays are just around the corner. I still have no idea what the status is, and if there is going to be a future to the discussions but I am more than willing to participate. I would like to see some conclusion to the process. I would be happy to start or partake in discussions again, if others are interested.
Regards Theo
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 9:32 PM, Alice Wiegand me.lyzzy@googlemail.comwrote:
Hi SJ, hi all,
the last input to this mailing list was made by SJ a day before the board meeting in October. Phoebe announced the minutes ( http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Minutes/2011-10-07 ) at the end of November and stated on internal-l that there where no decisions or votes regarding movement roles. Nothing else.
Is there something going on currently? Can we hear some of the voices of your board discussion? Are you planning next steps in the process? The preparation for the chapters meeting is going to begin soon. If the movement roles project still exists, there is no way to not present something or reanimate it at that meeting. What are we going to do?
Unfortunately I feel not only frustrated about the process but also uninformed about the current status. And I mean both, the status of the movement roles process (which doesn't really look like doing any kind of processing) and the status of this group. Is there still a group existing? Is there still interest in having a group (formerly called core team)? What are the tasks the group is responsible for? In my last mail I talked about burying and reanimation and more than then I would prefer to put an end to it at this stage and officially restart next year with a new team and defined roles and tasks.
If you want us/me/the chapters/the wm-universe to remain part of this, you need to give us more information. Please.
Regards, Alice.
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I hear and share both your frustrations - did talk to Theo this week (thanks, that was very helpful). Not much has happened at the Board end, but will update in any case.
Can't do it today - in an all-day conference, but will do so tomorrow and reply to both your specific questions/comments.
Best Bishakha
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 10:01 PM, Theo10011 de10011@gmail.com wrote:
I would like to echo Alice, and say that, I have been completely out of touch of any updates for the past few months. After the Berlin meeting, and the IRC discussion, I have not head a single conversation about Movement Roles. I saw that Sue referred to Movement roles 2 in an IRC meeting a couple of months ago, she was surprised that I was not aware, I had no idea there was a second iteration of Movement roles(still not sure). There has been little to no discussion about this, I wasn't informed about any discussions at Haifa or the presentation to the board. Like Alice, I'm frustrated by the lack of information and communication.
I did however, have a conversation with Bishakha about it very recently, we were planning on talking more about it next year since the holidays are just around the corner. I still have no idea what the status is, and if there is going to be a future to the discussions but I am more than willing to participate. I would like to see some conclusion to the process. I would be happy to start or partake in discussions again, if others are interested.
Regards Theo
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 9:32 PM, Alice Wiegand me.lyzzy@googlemail.comwrote:
Hi SJ, hi all,
the last input to this mailing list was made by SJ a day before the board meeting in October. Phoebe announced the minutes ( http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Minutes/2011-10-07 ) at the end of November and stated on internal-l that there where no decisions or votes regarding movement roles. Nothing else.
Is there something going on currently? Can we hear some of the voices of your board discussion? Are you planning next steps in the process? The preparation for the chapters meeting is going to begin soon. If the movement roles project still exists, there is no way to not present something or reanimate it at that meeting. What are we going to do?
Unfortunately I feel not only frustrated about the process but also uninformed about the current status. And I mean both, the status of the movement roles process (which doesn't really look like doing any kind of processing) and the status of this group. Is there still a group existing? Is there still interest in having a group (formerly called core team)? What are the tasks the group is responsible for? In my last mail I talked about burying and reanimation and more than then I would prefer to put an end to it at this stage and officially restart next year with a new team and defined roles and tasks.
If you want us/me/the chapters/the wm-universe to remain part of this, you need to give us more information. Please.
Regards, Alice.
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