Hi,
I think there is a little confusion going on :)
The slot on day 1 is plenery. Everybody will be there. However, it is only 45 minutes, and that will be merely enough time to make people understand what MR is all about.
Then there will be workshops - if we prepare well, we might be able to hijack some of them - on day 2.
Finally, there is the Accountability slot, which is in a track, where the group is split in two, which is basically part of the Movement Roles discussion, but somehow Erik seemed to have a preference not to have it as part of that process - and several people suggested that it should be.
Since ABBA was going to write a post about accountability, it would make sense to let that group also make a bit of preperation - but I am personally against any presentation longer than 3 minutes.
Lodewijk
2011/3/17 Bishakha Datta bishakhadatta@gmail.com
Dear Alice,
Sorry to top post, but need a quick clarification - Are you suggesting that in addition to the MR slot which is on day one, that there be an MR presentation (for lack of a better word) on the last day's - 27 March Accountability and Legitimacy session?
If so, I agree that it would be a good idea, since on day 1 - 25 March, the MR slot is at the same time as four other sessions (Wiki loves monuments, Chapter revitalization, Professionalization, Outreach to educational instns [1]), so this would help us reach more people.
Also, our board meeting is at the same time as the 25 March MR session, so it would be good from that pov also to have MR be part of two sessions.
Cheers Bishakha
[1]http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2011/Schedule
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 3:02 AM, Alice Wiegand me.lyzzy@googlemail.comwrote:
Hi all,
On 14 March 2011 13:38, Austin Hair adhair@gmail.com wrote:
As discussed at Friday's IRC meeting[0], I've started a template page[1] to help organize our work for meeting on the 24th. I know that most (if not all) of you have already made travel arrangements, so at the very least, I'd appreciate it if you could update the table with your attendance and dates. If you want to really make me happy, you can help flesh out the items already listed and/or add some of your own.
thinking about topics for working groups I realized that the schedule on Saturday (after the workiing groups) privides a session "Accountability and Legitimacy". The session, which was suggested by Erik, takes place parallel to the GLAM-session and I believe both will be attractive for chapters. GLAM becaus it is GLAM and "Erik's session" because it picks up daily problems of chapters. Many mails on the chapters' or internal mailing list and talks with chapter people show that there are lots of questions about that. And compared to movement roles issues this might be a topic which is very concrete to many chapters. And this might be important because it makes this session much more sexy than any of our working groups.
Accountability and legitimacy is an issue for movement roles as well, maybe more abstract and more global. It would be fatal to step into some kind of competition or even rivalry to this session. I would love to see us getting the best out of both, but I doubt that movement roles really rock the chapters. And therefore it sounds easy to combine both approaches but I am pretty sure it isn't. Asking myself how to realize it I have these ideas:
- ask Erik about the session's composition and estimated outcome
- find out overlappings and differences
- try to build up working groups considering this
** maybe a chapter related working group as preparation/supplement for the session ** maybe a topic related working group to clarify that this is not ony a chapters' issue ** maybe something completely different
- create the session's composition together with Erik and one of us
and organize it with both "speakers" and a facilitator
- attend the session and participate in the discussions; then extract
the outcomes into the charter
What do you think? Is this worth thinking about at all? Is there any other way to push the movement roles theme? Maybe I am the only one facing <s>a problem</ s> something to think about in the schedule. So every comment is appreciated, even if you think there is no coherence.
Regards, Alice.
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