Movementroles September 2010

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Next steps
by Austin Hair 30 Sep '10

30 Sep '10

Hi guys, I'm breaking this out into a separate e-mail, just so everyone's clear on what we're currently doing: First, I apologize for not writing about this sooner, but Jon and Arne and I will be meeting in Frankfurt on 3 October to take care of some mostly administrative stuff. If anyone's available at 1500 UTC on that day, I think a conference call would be very productive. I know it seems silly to set up a Doodle for a single time, but it's nice to have a standard location to see at a glance who can attend—please take just a second to add an entry at [0]. As previously discussed, the draft proposal (to whom is apparently not yet clear) is at [1], so please weigh in as soon as you can. Since our working timeline has this made official in just a few days, this is the #1 priority. Additionally, a draft questionnaire/survey is at [2], which everyone should take a look at in the next few days. This is public, of course, and once it's finalized the idea is to have people copy it to their userspace and link back on that page. They're fairly open-ended questions, and intentionally so—it's meant to get a general feel of what the community thinks of the topic, and allow people with very strong opinions to make those opinions known. And in case you're wondering, I'm still working on the central calendar/schedule we talked about in our last meeting—expect that later today. [0] http://doodle.com/wmdcifcgggn8q6ug [1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_roles_working_group/Proposal [2] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_roles_working_group/Questionnaire

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Timeline, next steps
by Alice Wiegand 30 Sep '10

30 Sep '10

Hi, I noticed that after our last meeting the proposal has been reworked as discussed and I think it now follows our suggestions in a proper way. Didn't we talk about publishing it on meta, replacing the old draft (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_roles_working_group/Proposal) these days? It would be nice and very helpful to have a timetable with the fixed and the variable dates of the process in the movement roles wiki, just to keep an eye of what must be done when (and perhaps by whom). Arne, can you start this with the already known dates (I would do, but didn't write them down). Best regards, Alice.

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Movement roles meeting for 15 October
by Austin Hair 28 Sep '10

28 Sep '10

Hi all, Thanks for answering the Doodle. It looks like the most compatible date for the post-Board meeting call is Friday, 15 October. (Sorry, Galileo.) We'll be meeting again at 1500 UTC—that's 0800 in San Francisco, 2030 in Mumbai, 2300 in Hong Kong, and 1700 in most of Europe. We'll be using the same conference line as the previous two meetings, and now that we've confirmed that it works for everyone I expect that we'll be using it from now on. Once again, the local dial-in numbers are: Argentina 0800-444-0061 Germany 0800-111-1195 Hong Kong 800-962-902 Hungary 06800-15139 India 000-800-100-7072 Netherlands 0800-265-8075 United States 877-384-2311 United Kingdom 0800-358-3475 When prompted, enter the conference code 257017422. I'll be re-sending this the day before the meeting, but in the meantime those of you who keep a schedule can mark off the dates. An agenda will be posted as soon as possible, but obviously much of it depends on the outcome of the San Francisco meeting. Let me know if you have any questions. Austin

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Doodle for post-Board meeting conference call
by Austin Hair 25 Sep '10

25 Sep '10

I've set up a Doodle for the planned conference call in the week following the WMF Board meeting. Please visit http://doodle.com/ifa2x8gppz54uwqe and weigh in on what times would be acceptable to you. Some of us will be on planes and such in the days after the meeting, so I expect that it'll wind up being later in the week, but I've offered 12-16 October as options. Thanks! Austin

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Conference call today (24 September), 1500 UTC
by Austin Hair 24 Sep '10

24 Sep '10

Hi all, Here are the numbers for today's conference call at 1500 UTC: Argentina 0800-444-0061 Germany 0800-111-1195 Hong Kong 800-962-902 Hungary 06800-15139 India 000-800-100-7072 Netherlands 0800-265-8075 United States 877-384-2311 United Kingdom 0800-358-3475 When prompted, enter the conference code 257017422 Bence, and anyone else who thinks they might have a problem dialing in directly, I think it would be good if you could be available 10 minutes beforehand in case we need to have an operator patch you in. I'm hoping this meeting will start a bit smoother than the last one, and more or less on time. :) Austin

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Conference call this Friday Sept 25 at 1500 UTC
by Jon Huggett 20 Sep '10

20 Sep '10

Thanks for letting us know when you are available on doodle. The next conference call of the Movement Roles Workgroup will be this Friday, Sept 25 at 1500 UTC. The agenda for the call is at http://movementroles.wikimedia.org/wiki/Agenda_2010_9_25. If you have problems seeing this page, please contact Austin. The main purpose of the call is for us to review the draft proposal to be presented to the board of the Wikimedia Foundation on 9th October in SF. http://movementroles.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_proposal Please could you review the draft proposal on the movement roles wiki before the meeting, especially if you will not be able to make the call in person? FYI, the minutes of the prior meetings are on line. http://movementroles.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_meeting_notes http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_roles_working_group/Meetings/2010-0… We look forward to talking with you on Friday. All the best Arne, Austin & Jon Also, a really useful one when you're just starting a wiki: Jon Huggett +44-795-278-0688 +1-415-465-2700 jon(a)huggett.com www.huggett.com Skype jon.huggett

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Date for next conference call
by Austin Hair 19 Sep '10

19 Sep '10

Hi all, At the end of our last conference call, we agreed that we should meet again very soon to discuss the proposal. Please see [1] for proposed meeting times, and indicate which ones you *cannot* attend. The proposed times are all 1500 UTC, In order to offer a reasonable opportunity for all participants to attend. If this simply doesn't work for you on any of those days, let me know and we can perhaps adjust it slightly. Austin http://www.doodle.com/499f577kiu4pkqxb Sent from my iPhone

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Going forward
by Bence Damokos 14 Sep '10

14 Sep '10

Hi all, Arne, Jon, Austin, could you give us an update on whether there is anything brewing behind the scenes that would jump start discussions or should we go ahead and set up some workspace on Meta or movementroles.wikimedia.org and start brainstorming on what kind of project would lead to answers to the movement roles questions that have been posed by the board? Is there any outstanding job that falls on the facilitators' shoulders that we should wait for before the work begins? (I am not sure if we agreed on to discard the movementroles wiki, but either way, having a page that has a village pump feel might help general and meta-level discussion and lead to the various working drafts that itself would have discussion pages which would help fine tune the outcome documents. The current Meta page isn't structured as a discussion place at the moment.) There might be some outstanding questions about this whole idea that should be brought forward in some forum - this mailing list or the discussion space to be set up. For those, who might not have the Meta page on their watchlists, Austin has put up the minutes of the teleconference we had last week at: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_roles_working_group/Meeting_10_Sept… . Thanks, Bence

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First call of the Movement Roles Workgroup will be at 1500 UTC this Friday, 10th September
by Jon Huggett 10 Sep '10

10 Sep '10

By popular acclaim, the first call of the Movement Roles Workgroup will be at 1500 UTC this Friday, 10th September. By a margin this was the time that most could make. James Owen will send out a note with the details of how to connect. As a reminder, the purpose of this call is to introduce each other and to start to plan our work together. Our immediate goal is to deliver a formal proposal on 9 Oct to the Wikimedia Foundation Board and other stakeholders. This will cover our scope and deliverables for Wikimania 2011. One on the items for us to discuss on the call is how best we can work together! We look forward to talking to you on Friday. Jon, Arne & Austin Jon Huggett +44-795-278-0688 +1-415-465-2700 jon(a)huggett.com www.huggett.com Skype jon.huggett

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Welcome to the Movement Roles Workgroup!
by Jon Huggett 08 Sep '10

08 Sep '10

Welcome to the Movement Roles Workgroup! I'm following up on the email that Austin sent out last week. We'd like to invite you to an initial call. The purpose of this call is to introduce each other and to start to plan our work together. Our immediate goal is to deliver a formal proposal on 9 Oct to the Wikimedia Foundation Board and other stakeholders. This will cover our scope and deliverables for Wikimania 2011. We're eager to start and would love to talk this week if you can. Times that work for Arne, Austin and me are: Thursday 9th Oct at 1500 UTC or 1900 UTC Friday 10th Oct at 1500 UTC or 1900 UTC Please let me know which time you cannot attend. Within 24 hours I will send another email indicating the most agreeable time. One on the items for us to discuss on the call is how best we can work together! We look forward to talking to you soon. Jon, Arne & Austin

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