Hi Pine,
I agree with the potential benefits, but my personal opinion is that merging the two apps would require a substantial overhaul of the Commons app, both in terms of UI design as well as codebase. Linking, if appropriate, would be an easier way to achieve the benefits of shared user base, but of course the experience would not be as seamless for users compared to merging.
Regardless, WMF staff would be better placed than I to answer your question, I think. If there is a merge, there will probably be some management/manpower implications, as the Commons app is currently a community-maintained app, whereas merging would probably mean that maintenance/upgrades would fall under the responsibility of the WMF mobile app team?
Cheers.
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Message: 1 Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2017 17:29:14 -0800 From: Jon Katz jkatz@wikimedia.org To: Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com Cc: mobile-l mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [WikimediaMobile] Prague Pre-Hackathon - registration and travel scholarships open Message-ID: <CADJYbHp6o5Vk4-zHnNs4bTAq-GgY+4rHiZWWPqSX5ACRAgZK3g@ mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Hi Pine, That's a great question and one we've thought about a lot on the app teams. It would obviously increase our image contributions a great deal if we connected the ease of uploading of the commons app with the user base of the Wikipedia app. However, given the quality and copyright issues that arose when we previously made it easier to upload images on the mobile [1], we want to be very careful about any future efforts and make sure we've ensured that issues around moderation are taken care of.
In a recent consultation around mobile contributions, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reading/Readers_contributions_via_Android, concerns around moderation were echoed, but uploading nearby images was still one of the most popular ideas proposed. There is clearly an opportunity here if we can figure out how to mitigate the moderation issues.
Regardless, given the upcoming structured data on commons https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Structured_data project, we're thinking that we want to delay any new asks of the Commons community until the repercussions of the project are well understood.
Best,
J
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On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 9:12 AM, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Josephine,
I'm glad to see that work is continuing on the Commons app. Just wondering, is there a chance of creating some kind of link between the Commons app and the Wikipedia app, or maybe even merging them at some
point?
Thanks,
Pine
On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 6:30 AM, Josephine Lim josephinelim86@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
Wikimedia Czech Republic and I are collaborating to organize a pre-hackathon <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2017/
Prehackathon_Prague>
in Prague that runs from 12-14 May 2017, a week before the hackathon in Vienna. There are a few scholarships available that will cover the
return
trip to Prague/Vienna, and/or accommodation in Prague during the pre-hackathon.
The topic of the pre-hackathon will be the improvement of the Wikimedia Commons Android app <https://github.com/commons-
app/apps-android-commons>,
with focus on the "Nearby places that need pictures" feature. Further details are currently still being discussed here https://github.com/commons-app/apps-android-commons/issues/353.
If you are interested, please register <https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScvPa8LIz_
YTOIcToaAAkAvnZ5OoJ2F5YUlfelDcTcutL24cg/viewform>
as soon as possible and indicate if you would like to apply for a scholarship in the application form. For any enquiries, feel free to
send
me or Vojtech (CC'ed) an email, or post on our GitHub or wiki discussion page.
Cheers!
-- Regards, Josephine
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Hi Josephine,
Thanks for the info.
I wonder if it would make sense to promote the Commons app inside of the Wikipedia app. That might be particularly beneficial during Wiki Loves Monuments and other Commons-focused campaigns. However, as Jon pointed out, there are resource constraints with moderation. Perhaps someday there will be a combination of AI improvements and human resource capacity improvements to adequately address the constraints in the moderation queue.
I have a few other questions about your app, but I feel like I've hijacked this thread so let's have that conversation elsewhere. I'll contact you off-list.
Regards,
Pine