Between 31st July 2013 (00:00:00) and August 19th (@ 18:53:18)...
15089 of all mobile edits resulted in an error compared to 23455 successful edits (38544 edits in total)- that's a 39% error rate which is simply unacceptable. The breakdown of these errors is as follows. The most alarming is AbuseFilter - it is accounting for 72% of all editing errors, costing all of our projects a lot of edits.
This is simply unacceptable and I'm not sure how we go about addressing this problem. I struggle to believe that 28% of all edits on mobile by registered users are abuse...
==AbuseFilter (10842, 72% of all errors)== abusefilter-warning-removal 4332 abusefilter-disallowed 2939 abusefilter-warning-13 723 abusefilter-warning-all-categories-removed 668 abusefilter-warning-ref-group-blanking 504 abusefilter-warning 388 abusefilter-warning-blanking 323 abusefilter-warning-rimozione-categorie 277 abusefilter-warning-removal-of-categories 182 abusefilter-warning-leeghalen 57 abusefilter-warning-uncat 55 abusefilter-warning-kategorilerinçıkarılması 43 abusefilter-warning-removing-information-template 41 abusefilter-warning-no-lead-section 35 abusefilter-warning-usuwanie-tekstu 34 Misbruikfilter-waarschuwing-categorie 29 abusefilter-warning-usuwanie-kategorii 17 abusefilter-warning-repeated-characters 17 abusefilter-warning-removal-cat 16 abusefilter-warning-kategorie 13 abusefilter-warning-17 12 abusefilter-blanking 10 abusefilter-warning-AFC 10 abusefilter-warning-vyprázdnění 8 abusefilter-warning-lowercase-letters 8 abusefilter-warning-shouting 6 abusefilter-warning-removal-of-templates 6 abusefilter-warning-email 6 abusefilter-blank 5 abusefilter-warning-large-nonenglish-addition 4 abusefilter-warning-short-new-article 4 abusefilter-warning-veryshortarticle 4 abusefilter-warning-nowiki 3 abusefilter-warning-používaná 3 abusefilter-warning-special-templates-removal 3 abusefilter-warning-largeaddition-notice 3 abusefilter-warning-nospaces 3 abusefilter-warning-talkblanking 3 abusefilter-warning-external-images 3 abusefilter-warning-8 3 abusefilter-warning-clear-page 2 abusefilter-warning-1 2 abusefilter-warning-badlang 2 abusefilter-warning-editpage 2 abusefilter-warning-clear-text 2 abusefilter-warning-deltemplate 2 abusefilter-warning-新規利用者による小さすぎる記事の作成 2 abusefilter-warning-40 2 abusefilter-warning-schuttingtaal 2 abusefilter-warning-autobiography 1 abusefilter-warning-testing 1 abusefilter-warning-53 1 abusefilter-warning-badredirect 1 abusefilter-warning-kwebbelen 1 abusefilter-warning-Wikificazione 1 abusefilter-warning-blankpage 1 abusefilter-warning-removing-templates-on-image-description 1 abusefilter-warning-titel 1 abusefilter-warning-9 1 abusefilter-warning-redirect 1 abusefilter-warning-short-article 1 abusefilter-warning-41 1 abusefilter-warning-38 1 abusefilter-blocked-display 1 abusefilter-warning-plain-text 1 abusefilter-warning-blankowanie-stron 1 abusefilter-warning-obrázek 1 abusefilter-warning-kapottelink 1 abusefilter-warning-他利用者ページの編集 1 abusefilter-warning-afbeelding 1 abusefilter-warning-zmizení 1 abusefilter-warning-43 1 abusefilter-warning-galleries-without-images 1
== Other errors == unsupported-captcha 1395 blocked 1379 editconflict 725 HTTP error 157 protectedpage 136 rvnosuchsection 114 badtoken 112 unknownerror 51 Anonymous token. 50 unknown 48 pagedeleted 25 hookaborted 15 emptypage 13 autoblocked 12 cascadeprotected 10 ratelimited 4 readonly 1
Those look like mostly warnings, which *shouldn't* be preventing editing but should just be showing a prompt before you can save. Is this not yet supported by the mobile editor?
-- brion
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Jon Robson jdlrobson@gmail.com wrote:
Between 31st July 2013 (00:00:00) and August 19th (@ 18:53:18)...
15089 of all mobile edits resulted in an error compared to 23455 successful edits (38544 edits in total)- that's a 39% error rate which is simply unacceptable. The breakdown of these errors is as follows. The most alarming is AbuseFilter - it is accounting for 72% of all editing errors, costing all of our projects a lot of edits.
This is simply unacceptable and I'm not sure how we go about addressing this problem. I struggle to believe that 28% of all edits on mobile by registered users are abuse...
==AbuseFilter (10842, 72% of all errors)== abusefilter-warning-removal 4332 abusefilter-disallowed 2939 abusefilter-warning-13 723 abusefilter-warning-all-categories-removed 668 abusefilter-warning-ref-group-blanking 504 abusefilter-warning 388 abusefilter-warning-blanking 323 abusefilter-warning-rimozione-categorie 277 abusefilter-warning-removal-of-categories 182 abusefilter-warning-leeghalen 57 abusefilter-warning-uncat 55 abusefilter-warning-kategorilerinçıkarılması 43 abusefilter-warning-removing-information-template 41 abusefilter-warning-no-lead-section 35 abusefilter-warning-usuwanie-tekstu 34 Misbruikfilter-waarschuwing-categorie 29 abusefilter-warning-usuwanie-kategorii 17 abusefilter-warning-repeated-characters 17 abusefilter-warning-removal-cat 16 abusefilter-warning-kategorie 13 abusefilter-warning-17 12 abusefilter-blanking 10 abusefilter-warning-AFC 10 abusefilter-warning-vyprázdnění 8 abusefilter-warning-lowercase-letters 8 abusefilter-warning-shouting 6 abusefilter-warning-removal-of-templates 6 abusefilter-warning-email 6 abusefilter-blank 5 abusefilter-warning-large-nonenglish-addition 4 abusefilter-warning-short-new-article 4 abusefilter-warning-veryshortarticle 4 abusefilter-warning-nowiki 3 abusefilter-warning-používaná 3 abusefilter-warning-special-templates-removal 3 abusefilter-warning-largeaddition-notice 3 abusefilter-warning-nospaces 3 abusefilter-warning-talkblanking 3 abusefilter-warning-external-images 3 abusefilter-warning-8 3 abusefilter-warning-clear-page 2 abusefilter-warning-1 2 abusefilter-warning-badlang 2 abusefilter-warning-editpage 2 abusefilter-warning-clear-text 2 abusefilter-warning-deltemplate 2 abusefilter-warning-新規利用者による小さすぎる記事の作成 2 abusefilter-warning-40 2 abusefilter-warning-schuttingtaal 2 abusefilter-warning-autobiography 1 abusefilter-warning-testing 1 abusefilter-warning-53 1 abusefilter-warning-badredirect 1 abusefilter-warning-kwebbelen 1 abusefilter-warning-Wikificazione 1 abusefilter-warning-blankpage 1 abusefilter-warning-removing-templates-on-image-description 1 abusefilter-warning-titel 1 abusefilter-warning-9 1 abusefilter-warning-redirect 1 abusefilter-warning-short-article 1 abusefilter-warning-41 1 abusefilter-warning-38 1 abusefilter-blocked-display 1 abusefilter-warning-plain-text 1 abusefilter-warning-blankowanie-stron 1 abusefilter-warning-obrázek 1 abusefilter-warning-kapottelink 1 abusefilter-warning-他利用者ページの編集 1 abusefilter-warning-afbeelding 1 abusefilter-warning-zmizení 1 abusefilter-warning-43 1 abusefilter-warning-galleries-without-images 1
== Other errors == unsupported-captcha 1395 blocked 1379 editconflict 725 HTTP error 157 protectedpage 136 rvnosuchsection 114 badtoken 112 unknownerror 51 Anonymous token. 50 unknown 48 pagedeleted 25 hookaborted 15 emptypage 13 autoblocked 12 cascadeprotected 10 ratelimited 4 readonly 1
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On 19.08.2013, 23:08 Jon wrote:
This is simply unacceptable and I'm not sure how we go about addressing this problem. I struggle to believe that 28% of all edits on mobile by registered users are abuse...
Not necessarily abuse: the problems look like AF is preventing users from making mistakes. Or our editing inteface from screwing up users...
Most of the popular decline errors seem to be related to removal of large chunks of text, this sounds suspicious...
Max Semenik, 19/08/2013 21:14:
On 19.08.2013, 23:08 Jon wrote:
This is simply unacceptable and I'm not sure how we go about addressing this problem. I struggle to believe that 28% of all edits on mobile by registered users are abuse...
Not necessarily abuse: the problems look like AF is preventing users from making mistakes. Or our editing inteface from screwing up users...
Most of the popular decline errors seem to be related to removal of large chunks of text, this sounds suspicious...
I don't remember if the other thread with error breakdowns was before or after this, but 20 % vandalism is not an unreasonable figure, it is rather standard for unregistered users.
Nemo
Editing on mobile is enabled only for registered users.
Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote:
I don't remember if the other thread with error breakdowns was before or after this, but 20 % vandalism is not an unreasonable figure, it is rather standard for unregistered users.
Nemo
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Juliusz Gonera, 02/09/2013 20:59:
Editing on mobile is enabled only for registered users.
Sure, but it's not the fact of being unregistered that makes someone more of a vandal; it's just the ephemeral nature of the contribution. It is /possible/ for mobile to have a level of vandalism on the same order of magnitude as unregistered users. It probably doesn't, but a 20 % "error rate" should not just be immediately assumed to be absurd. I meant only this.
Nemo
Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote:
I don't remember if the other thread with error breakdowns was before or after this, but 20 % vandalism is not an unreasonable figure, it is rather standard for unregistered users.