Hi Rupert,
Thanks for your input. I agree that the switch should sit at the page
level rather than creating a universal setting.
-J
On Monday, December 14, 2015, rupert THURNER <rupert.thurner(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
I like the idea. Where you envision to let the user
switch easy between
simple and normal? I d love to do this easy for every article not as a
general setting.
Rupert
On Dec 11, 2015 21:13, "Jon Katz" <jkatz(a)wikimedia.org
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jkatz@wikimedia.org');>> wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> TLDR: want to introduce the idea of surfacing simple english version of
> wikipedia in a more prominent way to test if this appeals to our readers.
> no timeline, no action items, just an intro to the concept and a request
> for feedback/suggestions.
>
> *Bakground:*
> As a refresher/summary, as part of the reading team's strategic process
> <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reading/Strategy>, we identified 4
> reading strategies that we are exploring and want to test hypothesis that
> will help us determine which strategies are more impactful.
>
> I am reviewing our strategy tests (i.e. tests that can help us determine
> if a particular strategy is one we should focus on) and came across some
> notes I made with Abbey (copied) around the potential strategy "Guided
> Educational Experiences" that I wanted to surface and run by you. This
> potential strategy is one where the reading team focuses on enhancing
> learning (comprehension and/or retention) of content. Ideas in this theme
> include identifying prerequisite articles, a suggested order to reading
> articles (curricula), simple or practical versions of articles, quizzes or
> even games. To be clear, this is a potential strategy that we are
> evaluating along with others, as described here
>
<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reading/Strategy/Strategy_Process/Testing#About>.
> I also want to acknowledge that there have likely been other experiments in
> this area--if you have specific examples you would like to share, please do
> so. The test proposed below came about from one such awareness.
>
> *The test:*
> One idea for this strategy was "simplified versions of
> articles"--versions of articles for readers who were unfamiliar with the
> topic or lacked a basic educational foundation. That wikipedia articles
> are sometimes to advanced is not a novel observation, but it's a tough nut
> to crack.
>
> We had originally framed the test as "will editors want to create
> simplified versions of articles" and we planned on asking them. However
> the work that James Helman is doing with editors translating medical
> documents into more practical guides in Swahili [link?] seems to show there
> is interest here. However, we felt that SimpleEnglish was, in itself, a
> remarkable test of what is being proposed, even though its focus is on
> simple wording rather than concept simplicity. The most often-cited problem
> (anecdote) with SimpleEnglish is that very few readers can find it. This
> makes sense: someone confused by sophisticated vocabulary or looking for a
> summary of an article is not likely to check the language list to see if a
> simple version of the article sits there.
>
> So the proposed test would be to surface simple english in a more
> prominent way and to test if this led to higher comprehension using either
> quick surveys or a proxy, like pageviews. I added the broad outlines of the
> test to our strategy test document, here
>
<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reading/Strategy/Strategy_Process/Testing#Create_deep-dive_.28guided.29_educational_experience>
> .
>
> *The ask:*
> This is not part of our proposed Q3 plans or even our Q4 plans, but I
> would like to hear feedback and ideas around how we could effectively
> integrate it into our plans. One idea would be to implement it on one of
> the apps, first, since we can move things around there without disturbing
> as many people. We are open to suggestions.
>
> Best,
>
> J
>
>
>
>
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