On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Adam Baso abaso@wikimedia.org wrote:
I believe Gautam over at Opera may have some viewport stats he can share with the list. He'll be emailing that pretty soon I think.
I've just joined this mailing list, and have gone through this thread. I've got some data and screenshots that are relevant for this discussion:
h3. Screen size for Opera Mini clients (sample data, 1 day): upto 400x320 50% 401x321 upto 470x320 3% 471x321 to 640x480 24% 641x481 to 960x720 17% 961x721 and above 7%
I'm running this stat with lower screen sizes, for users using Wikipedia and will report here once I have new data.
h3. Screenshots:
Size 180 x 240, Size 240 x 320 https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B-yck2WBt5TwekdHa0kxN0psRk0&usp=...
This is what I presented yesterday at Wikimedia, to emphasize that there is a problem. Of course, you decide how to tackle it.
Best regards, Gautam
I feel a compromise with a labeled "Add to Watchlist" button at the bottom of the article on low-JS devices (freeing up the menubar at the top), but keeping the star at the top on higher-JS devices (and hiding the "Add to Watchlist" button at the bottom), is one way to strike a balance between discoverability and usability in light of what seems to be pretty low practical usage of the feature on the low-JS devices.
-Adam
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 12:43 PM, Juliusz Gonera jgonera@wikimedia.org wrote:
Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote:
Juliusz Gonera, 10/06/2014 20:31:
I would remove page actions for non-JS users if watchstar proves to be hardly ever used.
Personally I'm quite disturbed by the idea of further reducing discoverability of editing/non-passive usage. I don't know about the specific case, but remember not to trade the (visibility of the) *essence* of the wiki for a few pixels saved.
I understand this argument, however, on small feature phones with Opera Mini, the initial page view consists only of page header and a watchstar button. None of the article content fits without scrolling.
-- Juliusz
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