Oops, sorry I missed that :p At least we've got it scheduled now for next iteration.
On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Jon Robson jdlrobson@gmail.com wrote:
Arthur if you look 2 replies up you'll see I did :) https://wikimedia.mingle.thoughtworks.com/projects/mobile/cards/1757
On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Adam Baso abaso@wikimedia.org wrote:
If you happen to pursue this card, it's implicit, but was hoping you
could
tag in the disposition of whether it's W0-scoped or not. The flag in the data should be generic, like "w0" if it's W0.
On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Arthur Richards <
arichards@wikimedia.org>
wrote:
Jon, create a story card for this and we can discuss a bit during
today's
planning meeting.
On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 10:30 AM, Jon Robson jdlrobson@gmail.com
wrote:
Exactly.
According to click tracking the settings page gets 200 clicks a day (compared to Watchlist which gets around 5K) - although note this clicktracking is only limited to users of high end phones (requires JavaScript). I think these metrics would be very useful to have and would let us get a better idea of our users.
On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Adam Baso abaso@wikimedia.org
wrote:
You're talking about having the origin servers take POSTs and make a backend event logging call, right? As opposed to a pure JavaScript event logging solution. I believe that doing it with origin servers hitting event logging would be ideal for ensuring that data is captured for both devices without JS support adequate for JS-driven event logging, as well as those
with
it.
Argh, decimal placement problem on my side.The usage of Special:MobileOptions is actually much lower. Here are comparisons of Wikipedia Zero m.wikipedia versus general m.wikipedia, based on 20140310 log data.
Wikipedia Zero m.wikipedia: Special:MobileOptions as percent of "pageviews" (text/html content served) - 0.09% POST divided by sum of POST and GET on Special:MobileOptions: 24.8%
General m.wikipedia: Special:MobileOptions as percent of "pageviews" (text/html content served) - 0.02% POST divided by sum of POST and GET on Special:MobileOptions: 19.9%
On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Jon Robson jdlrobson@gmail.com wrote:
Poke. I'm no sure if it's safe to add a new data point, but I'd love to
know
the answer to this question. Alternatively we could use EventLogging on the server side to log people that disable images (as well as
those
that opt in and out of beta). I think it's a useful component to
have
on mobile especially for the Zero case but if we can avoid using it
in
mobile web I think this is a good idea.
I created a story
https://wikimedia.mingle.thoughtworks.com/projects/mobile/cards/1757
in the hope we might explore this.
On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Adam Baso abaso@wikimedia.org wrote: > Good question. I think we'd need to log this origin side, and look > at > percentage usage on mdot in general and usage percentage on mdot
for
> Wikipedia Zero and see the results and see if there's any
measurable
> difference. > > Is it safe to add this data point via MobileFrontend's existing > DOMParse > wfDebugLog call? Or should we add an additional wfDebugLog
statement
> right > below it? > > As an aside, I noticed that of the 1% of "pageviews" on Wikipedia > Zero > for > Special:MobileOptions, three-fourths are GETs and one-fourth are > POSTs > (POSTs seem to be issued irrespective of JavaScript support if the > user > hits > "Save"). As "Images (On|Off)" is the only option currently shown
on
> Wikipedia Zero for users who get to Special:MobileOptions, we can > somewhat > safely say that on a given day we're talking an upper bound of
maybe
> 500 > users who (optionally) toggle the On | Off switch and (by > implication) > hit > "Save" on a given day. As to whether the cookie persists, > particularly > in > the Off state, and whether that translates to a nontrivial number
of
> no-images pageviews, the origin-side logging will tell the fuller > story, > I > suppose. > > -Adam > > > On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Jon Robson jdlrobson@gmail.com > wrote: >> >> Adam, I am interested in who uses the feature "Images" on >> Special:MobileOptions which sets a cookie disabling images. I'm
not
>> sure how page views to Special:MobileOptions is related. Is it >> possible to see % of page views where the "disableImages" cookie
is
>> set? This would give a better indication of how widely used this >> feature is.... >> >> On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Adam Baso abaso@wikimedia.org >> wrote: >> > Based on the 20140302 W0 logfile it looks like >> > Special:MobileOptions >> > constitutes about 1% of "pageviews" (not the bulletproof >> > definition, >> > but >> > a >> > good enough one). >> > >> > >> > On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Tomasz Finc >> > tfinc@wikimedia.org >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> We added it specifically for Zero back in the day. Should be >> >> easy >> >> enough to measure and get into a sprint. >> >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Jon Robson >> >> jdlrobson@gmail.com >> >> wrote: >> >> > On this page - >> >> > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileOptions >> >> > - >> >> > it is possible to disable images across the mobile site. >> >> > >> >> > How many people actually use this (outside Zero)? Can we get >> >> > some >> >> > data? >> >> > >> >> > I personally think we should explore killing this feature as >> >> > an >> >> > option >> >> > and leave it to the browser to take care of... >> >> > >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > Mobile-l mailing list >> >> > Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Mobile-l mailing list >> >> Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Jon Robson >> * http://jonrobson.me.uk >> * https://www.facebook.com/jonrobson >> * @rakugojon > >
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