I was thinking along similar lines as Stuart, using OSM to navigate and
encouraging users to take photos of landmarks and other buildings where
that's permitted by FOP. Landmarks for which we have only small photos, old
photos (more than about 3 years), or no photos could be prioritized.
Also, for readers, how about showing the readers an OSM view of the world
and noting which nearby features have Wikipedia articles as the users
navigate on the map?
Finally, I'd like users to have emotionally rewarding experiences when
exploring our content, as well as creating new content or editing existing
content. Editing is painful on mobile, and even on desktop in VE there are
bugs which are frustrating. I'd like our tools to work properly, fast, and
intuitively. I realize that WMF has a limited budget, but our interface is
a ways from being a smooth and enjoyable experience, both on VE and on
wikitext. And for readers, I'd like to have robust multimedia search and
interactive features. We are far behind in our interfaces compared to sites
and apps that others provide, and I hope that we can close that gap within
the next two to three years. If WMF does not improve its interfaces
rapidly, this leaves the door open for competitors to remix our content
with better interfaces, and also encourages potential contibutors to leave
Wikimedia for places that provide nice, modern designs and user experiences.
Pine
On Jul 14, 2016 15:03, "Stuart A. Yeates" <syeates(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> A game built on a travel-photograph-upload loop would be a great way to
> build our depth of imagery.
>
> cheers
> stuart
>
> --
> ...let us be heard from red core to black sky
>
> On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 9:52 AM, Toby Negrin <tnegrin(a)wikimedia.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Pine -- did you have any specific ideas? I spent some time in the
>> gaming industry and am familiar with Ingress, the game that Pokeman Go is
>> based on, as well as the theories behind mechanics/compulsion loops that
>> mobile games use.
>>
>> I'll share one general thought -- the research-edit-publish loop is a
>> great mechanism -- it's quick and easy and very gratifying, especially
>> combined with a google search.
>>
>> However, we've generally found that the notion that we use gaming
>> mechanics to encourage people to read or edit wikipedia does not have broad
>> support in our communities.
>>
>> -Toby
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 2:26 PM, Pine W <wiki.pine(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi WMF Mobile and Research,
>>>
>>> I'm wondering if we (mostly meaning "you" but perhaps with external
>>> collaborators) have considered how the Wikipedia mobile apps, Wikipedia
>>> mobile web, the Wikidata game, and/or the Commons app could borrow some
>>> design ideas or features from Pokémon Go to make Wikimedia offerings more
>>> appealing, particularly to younger audiences. This would apply to content
>>> consumption and contribution, as well as community aspects of Wikimedia
>>> experiences, particularly on mobile platforms.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Pine
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Hi WMF Mobile and Research,
I'm wondering if we (mostly meaning "you" but perhaps with external
collaborators) have considered how the Wikipedia mobile apps, Wikipedia
mobile web, the Wikidata game, and/or the Commons app could borrow some
design ideas or features from Pokémon Go to make Wikimedia offerings more
appealing, particularly to younger audiences. This would apply to content
consumption and contribution, as well as community aspects of Wikimedia
experiences, particularly on mobile platforms.
Thanks,
Pine
At last month's Wikimania conference there were two sessions of particular
interest to this list:
1. "Adapting for Mobile Consumption"
<https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_digest/Adapting_for_Mobile_Co…>,
a presentation by Jon Katz with Nirzar Pangarkar, from the WMF Reading
team. In Jon's words, the talk is an introduction for editors to the
challenges we face together as we adapt our projects for mobile, with a
heavy focus on reading. A video recording
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u0Upq5dGcs> is now available (including
an extensive Q&A), along with the presentation slides
<https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1vi3JEML9zEzZPLIdEH9qJp7Uu5l5EyjtUM4…>
.
2. A separate discussion session took place on the day before, titled "Going
mobile and keeping editing: needs and challenges to edit Wikipedia from
mobile devices"
<https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Discussions/Mobile> (which the
organizers based partly on our session proposal
<https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Discussions/Submissions/Half_of_ou…>
). It saw quite lively participation; notes are at
https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Wikimania2016-discussion3c . One aspect I
found interesting (but which probably won't come as a surprise to any
community liaisons reading along) is that Phabricator still seems foreign
territory to many community members: During the session, I and other people
posted links to various existing Phabricator tasks related to the
suggestions/concerns that were being brought up; but as far I can see those
tickets didn't receive any comments or subscriptions subsequently.
--
Tilman Bayer
Senior Analyst
Wikimedia Foundation
IRC (Freenode): HaeB
Hi,
as most on this list will be aware, on the mobile web version of
Wikipedia, all top-level sections below the lead section are currently
shown collapsed on initial view. Users can tap on a section heading to
show the content, and to collapse it again.
To examine the tradeoffs of this solution and inform future product
decisions, we ran an experiment where 0.05% of mobile web users were
shown all pages with every section expanded on initial load,
instrumented alongside a control group of 0.05% that kept seeing the
standard view where all sections all initially collapsed.
A high-level summary of results is now available at
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Collapsed_vs_uncollapsed_section_v…
. In particular:
* Readers in the test group (sections expanded) tend to stay longer on the page
* Readers in the test group tend to spend more time reading, and less
time navigating
* Readers in the test group tend to scroll more sections into view
than readers in the control group open
* Readers in the test group tend to stay shorter on the page than
readers using the Android Wikipedia app (which offers a TOC for easier
navigation, something not yet available in the mobile web test group)
Comments and questions are welcome, feel free to use the talk page for them too.
Note that this experiment only measured some aspects, and that the
results don't yet allow the unambiguous conclusion that it would be
better to switch to the uncollapsed view. That said, they certainly
suggest that such a change should be considered. It is being planned
to examine this question further with some user testing sessions.
(As an experiment, I've taken the opportunity to write this up this
analysis as a page in the research namespace on Meta, instead of on
Phabricator or in form of an email as done on other occasions.
Feedback on the format is welcome too.)
--
Tilman Bayer
Senior Analyst
Wikimedia Foundation
IRC (Freenode): HaeB
Cross-posting from various lists...
*TL;DR a new Foundation grant program starts today. Recent posts to this
list highlighted efforts to revive and improve Android Commons app by
Josephine Lim, with a similar type of grant[1]. Grants with this new
program could be a great source of support for similar mobile related
Wikimedia projects.*
[1] - https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mobile-l/2016-June/010255.html
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Alex Wang <awang(a)wikimedia.org>
Date: Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 10:10 AM
Subject: [Wmfall] Launching Project Grants!
To: "Staff (All)" <wmfall(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Hi everyone,
The Wikimedia Foundation Project Grants program will launch its first open
call on July 1. We will be accepting proposals through August 2nd for new
ideas to improve Wikimedia projects. <
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project>.
Funds are available to support individuals, groups and organizations to
implement new experiments and proven ideas, whether focused on building a
new tool or gadget, organizing a better process on your wiki, researching
an important issue, coordinating an editathon series or providing other
support for community-building.
Ideas from the current Inspire Campaign on addressing harassment are very
welcome. <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/Inspire>
Do you have have a good idea, but would like some feedback before applying?
Put it into the IdeaLab, where volunteers and staff can give you advice and
guidance on how to bring it to life. <
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab> Once your idea is ready,
it can be easily migrated into a grant request.
Marti Johnson and I will also be hosting weekly proposals clinics via
Hangouts and IRC for real-time discussions about the Project Grants Open
Call. We’ll answer questions and help you make your proposal better. Dates
and times are as follows:
* Tuesday, July 5 - 16:00 UTC
* Thursday, July 14 - 02:00 UTC
* Wednesday, July 20 - 15:00 UTC
* Friday, July 29 - 02:00 UTC
* Tuesday, August 2 - 01:30 UTC
* Tuesday, August 2 - 16:00 UTC
Links for Hangouts and the IRC channel are available here: <
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/Events#Upcoming_events>
We are excited to see your grant ideas that will support our community and
make an impact on the future of Wikimedia projects. Put your idea into
motion, and submit your proposal between July 1 and August 2! <
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Apply>
Please feel free to get in touch with me (awang(a)wikimedia.org) or Marti
Johnson (mjohnson(a)wikimedia.org) with questions about getting started with
your project!
Warm regards,
Alex & Marti
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