Greetings all mobilers and mobile enthusiasts,
The Mobile Web team is very close to finishing out our epic multi-quarter
collaboration with the Editing team and releasing a mobile-friendly VE
experience for tablet users (yay)!
The two teams (Mobile Web & Editing) have pledged to close out the
remaining high priority bugs and feature enhancements in the coming 2-3
weeks, with the goal of pushing VE to stable on *July 31*. This means that
users editing on wikis that have VE as the default editing experience
(projects like French and Portuguese Wikipedias, among others) will be sent
to VE editing by default, and users editing on wikis that have VE as an
opt-in (like English Wikipedia, among others) will be sent to the wikitext
editor but will have the option to switch to VE editing within the editing
workflow (a one-time sticky preference once they make the switch).
Once VE is live for tablet users, the Mobile Web team will help triage and
fix any remaining bugs, but the product roadmap for mobile VE will migrate
to the hands of the Editing team – so new feature requests and UX
enhancements will need to be run by James & the rest of the Editing team :)
Hang in there, folks – we're almost there!
Product Manager, Wikimedia Foundation
moving to mobile-l
You mean title attributes?
Yeh they should have labels or title attributes for accessibility reasons.
This has been somewhat neglected since tooltips don't even appear on mobile
I think Pine raised a similar issue on list yesterday.
On 9 Jul 2014 02:32, "Dario Taraborelli" <dtaraborelli(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
> Hi all – am I missing something or the Edit and Watchlist links (under
> li#ca-edit and li#ca-watch) should have HTML titles?
> I noticed this while browsing the mobile version on a desktop browser, I
> was expecting descriptive titles when hovering with the mouse over those
* When editing with images disabled on my mobile device, the icons for
editing don't appear. Is there a plan to have text replacements for the
icons when images are disabled and/or for readers who are visually impaired
and rely on text?
* In the Wikimedia mobile app I appear to be logged in because my username
appears in the left hand panel. However I am not permitted to edit
semi-protected content on English Wikipedia, and when I edited an
unprotected page the edits were attributed to my IP. I find it confusing to
have my username appear in the app but yet not be logged in. Can someone
explain what's happening here and how to fix it?
I was skimming recent bug reports and noticed this:
On an iPad in landscape mode, there's *very* little vertical room between
the VE toolbar and the top of the on-screen keyboard -- only about 220px of
height -- and the references dropdown menu is too tall and partly
disappears behind the keyboard. (Dismissing the keyboard kills focus and
hides the menu; scrolling doesn't move the toolbar and menu because they're
fixed to the viewport.)
There is however a lot of horizontal space... I notice that text selection
menus on mobile/tablet tend to be laid out horizontally: on iOS they're a
popup horizontal segmented button bar; on Android you get a
context-sensitive action-bar variant at the top of the screen.
Would a horizontally-focused menu design, maybe more like a second toolbar,
work better here?
(Adding mobile-l again). Please, let's keep discussions / status updates on
the mailing list.
On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 6:03 AM, Vibha Bamba <vbamba(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
> + Moiz, Tomaz
> Vibha Bamba
> Senior Designer | WMF Design
> On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Vibha Bamba <vbamba(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
>> All designs for sprint 35 have been completed. Please see notes below!
>> Update Saved Pages front end Interaction for IOS
>> <https://trello.com/c/ajgglPYu/9-design> (Reviewed with Monte. Done)
>> Reference Night Mode Colors
>> <https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/night-mode-colors> (Updated in
>> Etherpad, consistent with Agora)
>> Updates to the Reference Panel based on Night mode colors for Android
>> <https://trello.com/c/beTeKRwi/55-design> (Provided)
>> More Menu for IOS <https://trello.com/c/HftLmETl/86-design> (Designs
>> provided and reviewed with Monte)
>> Saved Page Assets (SVG assets requested, Moiz is posting these soon)
>> I'm setting up a review for the Night Mode Colors, aside from this if you
>> have any questions please find us tomorrow morning.
>> Vibha Bamba
>> Senior Designer | WMF Design
Adding mobile-l. No reason to keep this private.
On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 7:52 AM, Monte Hurd <mhurd(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
> Very exciting! :)
> On Jul 7, 2014, at 3:24 PM, Vibha Bamba <vbamba(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
> More Menu Designs have been updated in the design board to include all the
> items you mentioned.
> Can't find the card in sprint 35, hence letting you guys know.
> Vibha Bamba
> Senior Designer | WMF Design
> On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 7:13 PM, Howie Fung <hfung(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
>> (adding Monte per Rule of 3)
>> Thanks for the summary Dan.
>> To expand on what Dan and I talked about, the model that's emerging could
>> eventually lead to something along the lines of (future things are in
>> *"W" Menu*
>> "My" type things:
>> - Login/*Logout*
>> - Recent pages
>> - Saved Pages
>> - *Watchlist*
>> - *My Contributions*
>> - *My talk page*
>> Other frequently used:
>> - Random
>> *"More" Menu*
>> General/Settings-type items:
>> - Wikipedia language
>> - Send usage reports
>> - Log out (move to be under "W", but per Dan doing so shouldn't be a
>> blocker for release)
>> Wikipedia Zero Items (conditional if Wikipedia zero applies)
>> - Warn if leaving Wikipedia Zero
>> - Wikipedia Zero FAQ
>> About Items:
>> - Credits
>> - Send feedback
>> Note: Article History will be removed and be more closely associated with
>> article itself.
>> While I don't think we need to settle on the exact model right now (e.g.,
>> there's no watchlist currently and won't be one for at least another few
>> weeks minimum), let me know if anyone feels strongly that the above is a
>> direction that at the moment doesn't make sense.
>> On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 6:23 PM, Dan Garry <dgarry(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>> Howie and Erik,
>>> Here's the refactoring of the More menu that will happen on iOS.
>>> Basically it brings it in line with Android. The model is that anything
>>> frequently used is in the W menu (e.g. navigational stuff), and that the
>>> More menu is for other options. We'll change it so that the "General"
>>> heading in the More menu is instead "Settings" instead, but otherwise
>>> everything will be as in the email below.
>>> On 1 July 2014 16:44, Dan Garry <dgarry(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>>> Grouping: General
>>>> - Wikipedia language
>>>> - Send usage reports
>>>> - Log out
>>>> Grouping: Wikipedia Zero
>>>> - Warn if leaving Wikipedia Zero
>>>> - Wikipedia Zero FAQ
>>>> Grouping: About
>>>> - Credits
>>>> "Credits" should contain a "Send feedback" item.
>>>> Dan Garry
>>>> Associate Product Manager for Platform and Mobile Apps
>>>> Wikimedia Foundation
>>> Dan Garry
>>> Associate Product Manager for Platform and Mobile Apps
>>> Wikimedia Foundation
>> Howie Fung
>> Director of Product Development
>> Wikimedia Foundation
Good news, everyone!
Oliver ran some stats for us on where tablet users were landing (desktop
view or mobile view) a few days before and after the tablet redirect on
Before the redirect, *13% of pageviews from tablets were hitting the mobile
site*, meaning a non-trivial chunk of users had opted into the mobile
experience even before we were serving it to them as the default.
After the redirect, *95% of pageviews from tablets were hitting the mobile
site*, meaning a fairly small number of users are opting out of the mobile
experience we're serving – smaller than the number of people who were
opting out of the desktop experience before the redirect :)
(Note that the total pageview numbers haven't changed significantly – the
slightly downward trendline in the past few days just reflects the normal
dip we observe toward the end of every week.)
So, tl;dr, it looks like we're serving the needs of the majority of our
users. Graph below, courtesy of our beloved British data analyst/road
warrior. We'll continue to monitor these numbers, of course, but the early
results look good – nice work, team!
[image: Inline image 1]
Product Manager, Wikimedia Foundation
On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 3:25 PM, Adam Baso <abaso(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
> Alternative Marketplaces for Apps
> Amazon appstore probably makes sense, with release frequency once per month.
> Additionally, as per above, top 1-2 or alternative app stores to cover X%
> reach in China?
We've used this in the past and have seen fairly low download numbers.
Thus far its been low work but also low returns. You can find the
I'd ask you guys to own this distribution chain and funnel reviews
back to the app team if you moved forward with it as a distribution
It's an easy test to see if its worth our time.
The Mobile Apps team met for our monthly retrospective. With Tomasz out at
Google I/O, I temporarily filled in as scrum master in addition to my
product owner role.
The full notes are archived on mediawiki.org
Action points from this meeting:
- We're suffering from device shortage. Dan will follow-up with Tomasz
(in his role as Director) about this. In particular:
- The designers would like more Android devices so they can
familiarise themselves with Android design patterns.
- We'd like the language team, a very mobile-heavy team, to have iOS
devices so they can diversify their own testing of the app.
- Dan uses his iOS phone and Android tablet for all testing. He'd
like iOS tablets and Android phones to be more available in the office so
he can test on more platforms.
- Product and engineering have felt kind of separated from design, and
vice-versa. We all think we can make refinements to break this divide.
Vibha is going to own this improvement, but we all agreed trying to get iOS
out of the door is higher priority right now.
- We're focussed on the current sprint very well, but our planning for
two or three sprints into the future is poor. I think the blame is on me
for this here. Dan is going to own improving the backlog even further so
the roadmap is clearer.
- We need to meet sooner rather than later to discuss the iOS release
and whether we're comfortable going ahead with it, and what our criteria
for whether it's "ready" are. Dan will set this up.
- We need to talk about how often we release. Yuvi will lead a
discussion on mobile-l.
Associate Product Manager for Platform and Mobile Apps