Mobile-l July 2014

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Checking in on RFC: Scoping_site_CSS
by Tomasz Finc 09 Jul '14

09 Jul '14

Juliusz, What's your current thought on the following RFC: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Scoping_site_CSS It came up a little bit ago when Sumana and I were discussing open RFC's. thanks --tomasz

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[Web] Tentative date set for releasing VE to stable on tablets
by Maryana Pinchuk 09 Jul '14

09 Jul '14

Greetings all mobilers and mobile enthusiasts, The Mobile Web team is very close to finishing out our epic multi-quarter collaboration with the Editing team and releasing a mobile-friendly VE experience for tablet users (yay)! The two teams (Mobile Web & Editing) have pledged to close out the remaining high priority bugs and feature enhancements in the coming 2-3 weeks, with the goal of pushing VE to stable on *July 31*. This means that users editing on wikis that have VE as the default editing experience (projects like French and Portuguese Wikipedias, among others) will be sent to VE editing by default, and users editing on wikis that have VE as an opt-in (like English Wikipedia, among others) will be sent to the wikitext editor but will have the option to switch to VE editing within the editing workflow (a one-time sticky preference once they make the switch). Once VE is live for tablet users, the Mobile Web team will help triage and fix any remaining bugs, but the product roadmap for mobile VE will migrate to the hands of the Editing team – so new feature requests and UX enhancements will need to be run by James & the rest of the Editing team :) Hang in there, folks – we're almost there! -- Maryana Pinchuk Product Manager, Wikimedia Foundation wikimediafoundation.org

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Re: [WikimediaMobile] HTML titles on .m
by Jon Robson 09 Jul '14

09 Jul '14

moving to mobile-l You mean title attributes? Yeh they should have labels or title attributes for accessibility reasons. This has been somewhat neglected since tooltips don't even appear on mobile devices. I think Pine raised a similar issue on list yesterday. On 9 Jul 2014 02:32, "Dario Taraborelli" <dtaraborelli(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: > Hi all – am I missing something or the Edit and Watchlist links (under > li#ca-edit and li#ca-watch) should have HTML titles? > I noticed this while browsing the mobile version on a desktop browser, I > was expecting descriptive titles when hovering with the mouse over those > elements. > > Dario

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Mobile editing issues
by Pine W 09 Jul '14

09 Jul '14

Hi, * When editing with images disabled on my mobile device, the icons for editing don't appear. Is there a plan to have text replacements for the icons when images are disabled and/or for readers who are visually impaired and rely on text? * In the Wikimedia mobile app I appear to be logged in because my username appears in the left hand panel. However I am not permitted to edit semi-protected content on English Wikipedia, and when I edited an unprotected page the edits were attributed to my IP. I find it confusing to have my username appear in the app but yet not be logged in. Can someone explain what's happening here and how to fix it? Thanks, Pine

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Mobile VE submenu layout issues: go horizontal?
by Brion Vibber 09 Jul '14

09 Jul '14

I was skimming recent bug reports and noticed this: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=67340 On an iPad in landscape mode, there's *very* little vertical room between the VE toolbar and the top of the on-screen keyboard -- only about 220px of height -- and the references dropdown menu is too tall and partly disappears behind the keyboard. (Dismissing the keyboard kills focus and hides the menu; scrolling doesn't move the toolbar and menu because they're fixed to the viewport.) There is however a lot of horizontal space... I notice that text selection menus on mobile/tablet tend to be laid out horizontally: on iOS they're a popup horizontal segmented button bar; on Android you get a context-sensitive action-bar variant at the top of the screen. Would a horizontally-focused menu design, maybe more like a second toolbar, work better here? -- brion

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Re: [WikimediaMobile] Design for Sprint 35 is complete
by Yuvi Panda 09 Jul '14

09 Jul '14

(Adding mobile-l again). Please, let's keep discussions / status updates on the mailing list. On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 6:03 AM, Vibha Bamba <vbamba(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: > + Moiz, Tomaz > > > > ---- > Vibha Bamba > Senior Designer | WMF Design > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Vibha Bamba <vbamba(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: > >> All designs for sprint 35 have been completed. Please see notes below! >> >> >> *Summary* >> >> Update Saved Pages front end Interaction for IOS >> <https://trello.com/c/ajgglPYu/9-design> (Reviewed with Monte. Done) >> >> Reference Night Mode Colors >> <https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/night-mode-colors> (Updated in >> Etherpad, consistent with Agora) >> >> Updates to the Reference Panel based on Night mode colors for Android >> <https://trello.com/c/beTeKRwi/55-design> (Provided) >> >> More Menu for IOS <https://trello.com/c/HftLmETl/86-design> (Designs >> provided and reviewed with Monte) >> >> Saved Page Assets (SVG assets requested, Moiz is posting these soon) >> >> ------- >> >> I'm setting up a review for the Night Mode Colors, aside from this if you >> have any questions please find us tomorrow morning. >> >> ---- >> Vibha Bamba >> Senior Designer | WMF Design >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >

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Re: [WikimediaMobile] More Menu logic
by Yuvi Panda 08 Jul '14

08 Jul '14

Adding mobile-l. No reason to keep this private. On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 7:52 AM, Monte Hurd <mhurd(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: > Very exciting! :) > > > > On Jul 7, 2014, at 3:24 PM, Vibha Bamba <vbamba(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: > > More Menu Designs have been updated in the design board to include all the > items you mentioned. > https://trello.com/c/HftLmETl/86-design > > Can't find the card in sprint 35, hence letting you guys know. > > ---- > Vibha Bamba > Senior Designer | WMF Design > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 7:13 PM, Howie Fung <hfung(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: > >> (adding Monte per Rule of 3) >> >> Thanks for the summary Dan. >> >> To expand on what Dan and I talked about, the model that's emerging could >> eventually lead to something along the lines of (future things are in >> italics): >> >> *"W" Menu* >> >> "My" type things: >> >> - Login/*Logout* >> - Recent pages >> - Saved Pages >> - *Watchlist* >> - *My Contributions* >> - *My talk page* >> >> Other frequently used: >> >> - Random >> >> >> *"More" Menu* >> >> General/Settings-type items: >> >> - Wikipedia language >> - Send usage reports >> - Log out (move to be under "W", but per Dan doing so shouldn't be a >> blocker for release) >> >> Wikipedia Zero Items (conditional if Wikipedia zero applies) >> >> - Warn if leaving Wikipedia Zero >> - Wikipedia Zero FAQ >> >> About Items: >> >> - Credits >> - Send feedback >> - Privacy Policy >> - Terms of Use >> >> Note: Article History will be removed and be more closely associated with >> article itself. >> >> While I don't think we need to settle on the exact model right now (e.g., >> there's no watchlist currently and won't be one for at least another few >> weeks minimum), let me know if anyone feels strongly that the above is a >> direction that at the moment doesn't make sense. >> >> Howie >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 6:23 PM, Dan Garry <dgarry(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: >> >>> Howie and Erik, >>> >>> Here's the refactoring of the More menu that will happen on iOS. >>> Basically it brings it in line with Android. The model is that anything >>> frequently used is in the W menu (e.g. navigational stuff), and that the >>> More menu is for other options. We'll change it so that the "General" >>> heading in the More menu is instead "Settings" instead, but otherwise >>> everything will be as in the email below. >>> >>> Dan >>> >>> >>> On 1 July 2014 16:44, Dan Garry <dgarry(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Grouping: General >>>> Items: >>>> >>>> - Wikipedia language >>>> - Send usage reports >>>> - Log out >>>> >>>> >>>> Grouping: Wikipedia Zero >>>> Items: >>>> >>>> - Warn if leaving Wikipedia Zero >>>> - Wikipedia Zero FAQ >>>> >>>> >>>> Grouping: About >>>> Items: >>>> >>>> - Credits >>>> - Privacy Policy >>>> - Terms of Use >>>> >>>> >>>> "Credits" should contain a "Send feedback" item. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Dan Garry >>>> Associate Product Manager for Platform and Mobile Apps >>>> Wikimedia Foundation >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Dan Garry >>> Associate Product Manager for Platform and Mobile Apps >>> Wikimedia Foundation >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> _______________________ >> Howie Fung >> Director of Product Development >> Wikimedia Foundation >> >> hfung(a)wikimedia.org >> >> >

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Tablet pageview data pre and post redirect
by Maryana Pinchuk 08 Jul '14

08 Jul '14

Good news, everyone! Oliver ran some stats for us on where tablet users were landing (desktop view or mobile view) a few days before and after the tablet redirect on Tuesday: Before the redirect, *13% of pageviews from tablets were hitting the mobile site*, meaning a non-trivial chunk of users had opted into the mobile experience even before we were serving it to them as the default. After the redirect, *95% of pageviews from tablets were hitting the mobile site*, meaning a fairly small number of users are opting out of the mobile experience we're serving – smaller than the number of people who were opting out of the desktop experience before the redirect :) (Note that the total pageview numbers haven't changed significantly – the slightly downward trendline in the past few days just reflects the normal dip we observe toward the end of every week.) So, tl;dr, it looks like we're serving the needs of the majority of our users. Graph below, courtesy of our beloved British data analyst/road warrior. We'll continue to monitor these numbers, of course, but the early results look good – nice work, team! [image: Inline image 1] -- Maryana Pinchuk Product Manager, Wikimedia Foundation wikimediafoundation.org

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Re: [WikimediaMobile] [zero] Quarterly Review Topics (QRD, etc.)
by Tomasz Finc 08 Jul '14

08 Jul '14

On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 3:25 PM, Adam Baso <abaso(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: > Alternative Marketplaces for Apps > Amazon appstore probably makes sense, with release frequency once per month. > Additionally, as per above, top 1-2 or alternative app stores to cover X% > reach in China? We've used this in the past and have seen fairly low download numbers. Thus far its been low work but also low returns. You can find the listing here http://www.amazon.com/Wikimedia-Foundation-Wikipedia/dp/B0088P2A7A I'd ask you guys to own this distribution chain and funnel reviews back to the app team if you moved forward with it as a distribution option. It's an easy test to see if its worth our time. --tomasz

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[Apps] Monthly retrospective notes
by Dan Garry 08 Jul '14

08 Jul '14

Hi everyone, The Mobile Apps team met for our monthly retrospective. With Tomasz out at Google I/O, I temporarily filled in as scrum master in addition to my product owner role. The full notes are archived on mediawiki.org <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Apps/imported/Retrospective-June_2…> . Action points from this meeting: - We're suffering from device shortage. Dan will follow-up with Tomasz (in his role as Director) about this. In particular: - The designers would like more Android devices so they can familiarise themselves with Android design patterns. - We'd like the language team, a very mobile-heavy team, to have iOS devices so they can diversify their own testing of the app. - Dan uses his iOS phone and Android tablet for all testing. He'd like iOS tablets and Android phones to be more available in the office so he can test on more platforms. - Product and engineering have felt kind of separated from design, and vice-versa. We all think we can make refinements to break this divide. Vibha is going to own this improvement, but we all agreed trying to get iOS out of the door is higher priority right now. - We're focussed on the current sprint very well, but our planning for two or three sprints into the future is poor. I think the blame is on me for this here. Dan is going to own improving the backlog even further so the roadmap is clearer. - We need to meet sooner rather than later to discuss the iOS release and whether we're comfortable going ahead with it, and what our criteria for whether it's "ready" are. Dan will set this up. - We need to talk about how often we release. Yuvi will lead a discussion on mobile-l. Thanks everyone! Dan -- Dan Garry Associate Product Manager for Platform and Mobile Apps Wikimedia Foundation

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