Hoi JP,
When I saw your draft main page, that reminded me of the joint wikipedia for Alemannic, Alsacian, Suebian and Swiss German, cf. http://als.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houptsyte
I tried to find out how they assign a specific dialect to an article but was not successful in determining that (Im a linguist, not an IT expert). Maybe youre already aware of what theyre doing and to what extent its similar or different to what youre trying to do.
Best,
BT
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From: JP Béland [mailto:lebo.beland@gmail.com] Sent: 07 September 2012 01:51 To: Languages discussion and Wikimedia Indigenous Languages Subject: Re: [Languages] Extension to indicate dialects
I agree with you when saying the communities are too small to sustain two editions of Wikipedia, and that's why I even think Innu dialects should remain on the main Cree Wikipedia, hence my question about how effectively index all dialects to make it easy to find them and for contributor of another dialect to use them to translate in its own dialect.
I just remembered that I had created a stub for a main page 8 months ago to try to show how we could sort all dialects on the Cree Wikipedia: http://cr.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Amqui/Main_page
What do you think?
Thanks, JP
2012/9/6 Milos Rancic millosh@gmail.com
On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 10:54 PM, JP Béland lebo.beland@gmail.com wrote:
Good day Milos (and others if you know about that),
I'd like to investigate that more please if you could assist me. My
contact
at the Cree Cultural Institute (after I told him we could create an Innu Wikipedia separate from the Cree one which has Innu articles right now)
that
we (may) should divide the Innu into dialects as well because of huge phonological differences between West and East. On Ethnologue, where Innu
is
called Montagnais (ISO code moe), they mention Western Montagnais and Eastern Montagnais (exactly as described by the guy from the Cree Cultural Insitute), but they don't mention any "sub-codes" for those. See http://www.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=moe .
That being said, what would be the advantages of having those codes for
the
"sub-dialects"? I mean, the intent is not to have separate Wikipedias.
It's
perfectly possible to sort the articles according to those dialect on one Wikipedia without having codes.
If the information on Ethnologue is correct, it suggests implicitly that there is one standard language; or that the differences between the dialects are not big.
But, anyway, no matter of differences, the population is too small to be able to drive two Wikipedia editions. I suggest creating one Innu Wikipedia with possibility to write in all dialects. Or, if possible, to create a kind of conversion engine in the future, so all communities would be able to contribute and read in their own dialect on the same pages.
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