Hello, I'm developer and helper and I have a proposal for translating Huggle. At the moment we are only using SVN and Meta-Wiki to translate our system. That's bad because the translators need SVN access and other programs. Many Wikimedia projects like MediaWiki or Pywikipedia uses Translatewiki.net to translate there user interfaces. Translatewiki.net has an easy interface, too. That's easy for the developers, administrators of SVN and translators. So I think it's better if we change to Translatewiki to translate our system. What's your opinion? Sincelery,IWorld Volunteer helper and developer of Huggle WA
+1 to IWorld :)
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 1:35 AM, V G vgweb@hotmail.de wrote:
Hello,
I'm developer and helper and I have a proposal for translating Huggle. At the moment we are only using SVN and Meta-Wiki to translate our system. That's bad because the translators need SVN access and other programs. Many Wikimedia projects like MediaWiki or Pywikipedia uses Translatewiki.net to translate there user interfaces. Translatewiki.net has an easy interface, too. That's easy for the developers, administrators of SVN and translators. So I think it's better if we change to Translatewiki to translate our system. What's your opinion?
Sincelery, IWorld Volunteer helper and developer of Huggle WA
Huggle mailing list Huggle@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/huggle
The idea is good. However, I've had a few issue with TranslateWiki in the past. On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Srikant Kedia wikiodisha1@gmail.comwrote:
+1 to IWorld :)
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 1:35 AM, V G vgweb@hotmail.de wrote:
Hello,
I'm developer and helper and I have a proposal for translating Huggle. At the moment we are only using SVN and Meta-Wiki to translate our system. That's bad because the translators need SVN access and other programs. Many Wikimedia projects like MediaWiki or Pywikipedia uses Translatewiki.net to translate there user interfaces. Translatewiki.net has an easy interface, too. That's easy for the developers, administrators of SVN and translators. So I think it's better if we change to Translatewiki to translate our system. What's your opinion?
Sincelery, IWorld Volunteer helper and developer of Huggle WA
Huggle mailing list Huggle@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/huggle
-- Thanks & Regards, Srikant Kedia (Odisha1)
Facebook- facebook.com/OdiaWiki Tweet @OdiaWiki
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Which problems? I hope we can clarify these questions and issues before we create the request for project creation on Translatewiki.
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 14:34:09 +0530 From: parakara.ghoda@gmail.com To: huggle@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Huggle] Translation system of Huggle
The idea is good. However, I've had a few issue with TranslateWiki in the past. On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Srikant Kedia wikiodisha1@gmail.com wrote:
+1 to IWorld :)
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 1:35 AM, V G vgweb@hotmail.de wrote:
Hello, I'm developer and helper and I have a proposal for translating Huggle. At the moment we are only using SVN and Meta-Wiki to translate our system. That's bad because the translators need SVN access and other programs. Many Wikimedia projects like MediaWiki or Pywikipedia uses Translatewiki.net to translate there user interfaces. Translatewiki.net has an easy interface, too. That's easy for the developers, administrators of SVN and translators. So I think it's better if we change to Translatewiki to translate our system. What's your opinion? Sincelery,IWorld Volunteer helper and developer of Huggle WA
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+1 to IWorld :)
But we're not using SVN to translate something, only Meta. In general all translations should be done at meta and then transferred to svn by a dev.
Michael
Yours sincerely, Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
Michael Movchin (mmovchin) Volunteer Huggle core developer, conference coordinator and Wikipedia author Freiwilliger Huggle Core-Entwickler, Konferenzkoordinator und Wikipedia Autor
Am 26.03.2012 13:13, schrieb V G:
Which problems? I hope we can clarify these questions and issues before we create the request for project creation on Translatewiki.
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 14:34:09 +0530 From: parakara.ghoda@gmail.com To: huggle@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Huggle] Translation system of Huggle
The idea is good. However, I've had a few issue with TranslateWiki in the past. On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Srikant Kedia <wikiodisha1@gmail.com mailto:wikiodisha1@gmail.com> wrote:
+1 to IWorld :) On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 1:35 AM, V G <vgweb@hotmail.de <mailto:vgweb@hotmail.de>> wrote: Hello, I'm developer and helper and I have a proposal for translating Huggle. At the moment we are only using SVN and Meta-Wiki to translate our system. That's bad because the translators need SVN access and other programs. Many Wikimedia projects like MediaWiki or Pywikipedia uses Translatewiki.net to translate there user interfaces. Translatewiki.net has aneasy interface, too. That's easy for the developers, administrators of SVN and translators. So I think it's better if we change to Translatewiki to translate our system. What's your opinion? Sincelery, IWorld Volunteer helper and developer of Huggle WA _______________________________________________ Huggle mailing list Huggle@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Huggle@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/huggle -- Thanks & Regards, Srikant Kedia (Odisha1) Facebook- facebook.com/OdiaWiki <http://facebook.com/OdiaWiki> Tweet @OdiaWiki _______________________________________________ Huggle mailing list Huggle@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Huggle@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/huggle-- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan.
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Okay, hey, So far, Huggle is complete in only one Indic language, Hindi, started by me. Others [in progress] are Marathi,Kannada, Telugu, etc. I created them so that someone would translate. I don't see that happening on translate wiki.
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 3:39 AM, Michael Movchin mmovchin@wikipedia.dewrote:
+1 to IWorld :)
But we're not using SVN to translate something, only Meta. In general all translations should be done at meta and then transferred to svn by a dev.
Michael
Yours sincerely, Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
Michael Movchin (mmovchin) Volunteer Huggle core developer, conference coordinator and Wikipedia author Freiwilliger Huggle Core-Entwickler, Konferenzkoordinator und Wikipedia Autor
Am 26.03.2012 13:13, schrieb V G:
Which problems? I hope we can clarify these questions and issues before we create the request for project creation on Translatewiki.
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 14:34:09 +0530 From: parakara.ghoda@gmail.com To: huggle@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Huggle] Translation system of Huggle
The idea is good. However, I've had a few issue with TranslateWiki in the past. On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Srikant Kedia wikiodisha1@gmail.comwrote:
+1 to IWorld :)
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 1:35 AM, V G vgweb@hotmail.de wrote:
Hello,
I'm developer and helper and I have a proposal for translating Huggle. At the moment we are only using SVN and Meta-Wiki to translate our system. That's bad because the translators need SVN access and other programs. Many Wikimedia projects like MediaWiki or Pywikipedia uses Translatewiki.net to translate there user interfaces. Translatewiki.net has an easy interface, too. That's easy for the developers, administrators of SVN and translators. So I think it's better if we change to Translatewiki to translate our system. What's your opinion?
Sincelery, IWorld Volunteer helper and developer of Huggle WA
Huggle mailing list Huggle@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/huggle
-- Thanks & Regards, Srikant Kedia (Odisha1)
Facebook- facebook.com/OdiaWiki Tweet @OdiaWiki
Huggle mailing list Huggle@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/huggle
-- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan.
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I've had great experience with translatewiki.net so far. On multiple occasions:
* MediaWiki core (obviously), although I wasn't there to set it up (way before my time) * MediaWiki extensions (about a dozen times)
And best of all (which is more closely like how it will be for Huggle): * Toolserver Intuition: A project I built from the ground-up to allow easy translation of arbitrary tools outside of a MediaWiki environment.
I can say without a doubt that if you go with translatewiki.net you will not regret it and the rate at which more and more language are translated at 100% will amaze you!
Note that translation itself is only one part of the proces, I don't know what system Huggle has or is planning to have but think really good about the following points. Without them, translation is pointless and you might as well not translate at all: * Fallback: People want quick results, if a language isn't complete or if a new message is added that at that time is only in English, or if an English message has breaking changes etc. it should still use the other languages where possible (even when some messages will fallback to English). * Plural support: In English it is fairly easy, you could have a message "apple-single" like "The basket contains 1 apple", and a message "apple-plural" like "The basket contains $1 apples". However in many languages there aren't just 2 variations, there are multiple depending on the number. For that reason you will need support for {{PLURAL:}} syntax. * And a few others…
For that reason I suggest 2 things:
* Go with translatewiki.net for translation, they are expert on the subject and have years of experience and a lot of translators.
* Use Toolserver Intuition for: ** Connection to translatewiki.net ** Handling of fallback, parsing, plural etc.
It may sound strange to use it outside of the Toolserver, but TsIntuition is just a PHP class. You can it as an svn-external and use it.
Let me know if you need help, I can spend a bit of time to give a simple implementation example in PHP.
-- Krinkle
On Mar 27, 2012, at 7:41 AM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan wrote:
Okay, hey, So far, Huggle is complete in only one Indic language, Hindi, started by me. Others [in progress] are Marathi,Kannada, Telugu, etc. I created them so that someone would translate. I don't see that happening on translate wiki.
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 3:39 AM, Michael Movchin mmovchin@wikipedia.de wrote: +1 to IWorld :)
But we're not using SVN to translate something, only Meta. In general all translations should be done at meta and then transferred to svn by a dev.
Michael Yours sincerely, Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
Michael Movchin (mmovchin) Volunteer Huggle core developer, conference coordinator and Wikipedia author Freiwilliger Huggle Core-Entwickler, Konferenzkoordinator und Wikipedia Autor
Am 26.03.2012 13:13, schrieb V G:
Which problems? I hope we can clarify these questions and issues before we create the request for project creation on Translatewiki.
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 14:34:09 +0530 From: parakara.ghoda@gmail.com To: huggle@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Huggle] Translation system of Huggle
The idea is good. However, I've had a few issue with TranslateWiki in the past. On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Srikant Kedia wikiodisha1@gmail.com wrote: +1 to IWorld :)
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 1:35 AM, V G vgweb@hotmail.de wrote: Hello,
I'm developer and helper and I have a proposal for translating Huggle. At the moment we are only using SVN and Meta-Wiki to translate our system. That's bad because the translators need SVN access and other programs. Many Wikimedia projects like MediaWiki or Pywikipedia uses Translatewiki.net to translate there user interfaces. Translatewiki.net has an easy interface, too. That's easy for the developers, administrators of SVN and translators. So I think it's better if we change to Translatewiki to translate our system. What's your opinion?
Sincelery, IWorld Volunteer helper and developer of Huggle WA
Huggle mailing list Huggle@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/huggle
-- Thanks & Regards, Srikant Kedia (Odisha1)
Facebook- facebook.com/OdiaWiki Tweet @OdiaWiki
Huggle mailing list Huggle@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/huggle
-- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan.
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