Huggle June 2017

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20 Jul '17

Hi, I’m getting the "Login failed on enwiki: You don't have rollback permissions on this project.” message when I attempt do login. I do have rollback permission and have used it many times. I tried getting help on IRC, but no one was online. Cheers, Dmartin969

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Re: [Huggle] EventStreams launch and RCStream deprecation
by Andrew Otto 11 Jul '17

11 Jul '17

Hi all, This is just a friendly reminder that we plan to turn off the RCStream service after July 7th. We’re tracking as best we can the progress of porting clients over at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T156919. But, we can only help with what we know about. If you’ve got something still running on RCStream that hasn’t yet ported, let us know, and/or switch soon! Thanks! -Andrew Otto On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 9:28 AM, Andrew Otto <otto(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: > Hi everyone! > > Wikimedia is releasing a new service today: EventStreams > <https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/EventStreams>. This service allows > us to publish arbitrary streams of JSON event data to the public. > Initially, the only stream available will be good ol’ RecentChanges > <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:RCFeed>. This event stream > overlaps functionality already provided by irc.wikimedia.org and RCStream > <https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/RCStream>. However, this new > service has advantages over these (now deprecated) services. > > > 1. > > We can expose more than just RecentChanges. > 2. > > Events are delivered over streaming HTTP (chunked transfer) instead of > IRC or socket.io. This requires less client side code and fewer > special routing cases on the server side. > 3. > > Streams can be resumed from the past. By using EventSource, a > disconnected client will automatically resume the stream from where it left > off, as long as it resumes within one week. In the future, we would like > to allow users to specify historical timestamps from which they would like > to begin consuming, if this proves safe and tractable. > > > I did say deprecated! Okay okay, we may never be able to fully deprecate > irc.wikimedia.org. It’s used by too many (probably sentient by now) bots > out there. We do plan to obsolete RCStream, and to turn it off in a > reasonable amount of time. The deadline iiiiiis July 7th, 2017. All > services that rely on RCStream should migrate to the HTTP based > EventStreams service by this date. We are committed to assisting you in > this transition, so let us know how we can help. > > Unfortunately, unlike RCStream, EventStreams does not have server side > event filtering (e.g. by wiki) quite yet. How and if this should be done > is still under discussion <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152731>. > > The RecentChanges data you are used to remains the same, and is available > at https://stream.wikimedia.org/v2/stream/recentchange. However, we may > have something different for you, if you find it useful. We have been > internally producing new Mediawiki specific events > <https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-event-schemas/tree/master/jsonschema…> > for a while now, and could expose these via EventStreams as well. > > Take a look at these events, and tell us what you think. Would you find > them useful? How would you like to subscribe to them? Individually as > separate streams, or would you like to be able to compose multiple event > types into a single stream via an API? These things are all possible. > > I asked for a lot of feedback in the above paragraphs. Let’s try and > centralize this discussion over on the mediawiki.org EventStreams talk > page <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:EventStreams>. In summary, > the questions are: > > > - > > What RCStream clients do you maintain, and how can we help you migrate > to EventStreams? > <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Tkjkee2j684hkwc9> > - > > Is server side filtering, by wiki or arbitrary event field, useful to > you? <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Tkjkabtyakpm967t> > - > > Would you like to consume streams other than RecentChanges? > <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Tkjk4ezxb4u01a61> (Currently > available events are described here > <https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-event-schemas/tree/master/jsonschema…> > .) > > > > Thanks! > - Andrew Otto > > >

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