Andrew,
I think one general issue is the lack of transparency (and community
involvement) in the decision making discussions. Not the documentation of
the decisions once done. That's good to have but if we have transparency as
a guiding principle, we should include that in the discussions too.
My 2c
Andrew Otto <otto(a)wikimedia.org> schrieb am Fr., 7. Okt. 2022, 18:40:
FWIW, the WMF Data Engineering team has had some
discussions about this in
the past, and we decided that all decisions and real work doc has to be
either in Phabricator or on a Wiki. We use Slack or IRC to discuss things,
but if we come to a conclusion, we try to summarize and document the
conclusion in Phab. I think we do this well with most things, but not as
well as we should with annual and quarterly planning docs (I think these
are in google docs and better works).
On Fri, Oct 7, 2022 at 10:54 AM Bryan Davis <bd808(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
On Fri, Oct 7, 2022 at 1:14 AM Taavi Väänänen
<hi(a)taavi.wtf> wrote:
As a final note, I've been referring to the #wikimedia-cloud-admin IRC
channel and the cloud-admin mailing list as public venues. While
technically true (the IRC channel and the mailing list archives are
public), I don't think those are mentioned anywhere on Wikitech and
cloud-admin subscription is moderated for non-staff (and I have a vague
memory of my subscription being rejected before I had Toolforge admin
access). I think there's some work to be done here to make it easier for
people to get involved.
The cloud-admin(a)lists.wikimedia.org mailing list has always had public
archives (which are much more useful now that we have mailman3) but
closed membership. The intent of this list was never to be a forum for
community discussion, but we did consciously choose to make the
archives open so that interested parties could see the discussions
that were held here.
Bryan
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