Thanks for the info about double-counting
That is a good point that people have the alternative of reading about Lila in article space. I can't think of a better explanation.
Pine
Date: Sat, 10 May 2014 16:34:56 -0700 From: Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org To: "A mailing list for the Analytics Team at WMF and everybody who has an interest in Wikipedia and analytics." analytics@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Analytics] stats.grok.se questions Message-ID: CAAUQgdBvbM-xUoiO19NUjVAB3rXaFRM-Y8A-1fvYX7ZCAGEr9g@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
It should not double-count. Scenario: you go to [[Foo]], a redirect to [[Bar]]. A request is logged for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foo, and MediaWiki internally examines Foo, works out it's a redirect to Bar, and provides the content of Bar instead. None of that happens at a level where the requestlogs directly catch it - MediaWiki doesn't send back a message going "uh, I think you want Bar", necessitating a second request, it just provides Bar's content.
In regards to Lila's page: maybe this is the first time people were pointed to her user page ;). I have no doubt that people are interested in finding out about her, but I imagine the reaction of most individuals would be to go to the article about her rather than her user page.
On 10 May 2014 02:14, Alex Druk alex.druk@gmail.com wrote:
Hi there,
I have no idea about Lila, but answer to your question about redirect and articles is NO (at least in my opinion).
If it would be double counting, number of hits on articles would be always greater than on their redirects. It is not so. You can compare for example page views on "Ghoramara" (redirect to Ghoramara Island) 24824 pageviews in May according to stats.grok.se and "Ghoramara Island" (actual article)
- 68 pageviews.
So, no double counting on stats.grok.se. It seems to me, that when user used redirect the hit is listed in raw file, but actual article - not.
Alex
On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 9:48 AM, ENWP Pine deyntestiss@hotmail.comwrote:
Following up on http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/analytics/2014-April/001898.html
Would including the redirect hits with the endpoint hits result in a user's single request for content being double-counted for the page where they eventually land?
Here's another question about pageview statistics. On May 2 and May 3 there are spikes in the statistics for many users' user pages on English Wikipedia, but en:User:LilaTretikov has surprisingly few page hits. Does anyone have an explanation for how Risker is getting a lot more userpage views than the new executive director is on English Wikipedia? I have a hard time believing that more people and bots are curious about the user pages of Risker and lots of other Wikipedians than they are about the user page of Lila in the past few weeks, so I am wondering if there is some error in the pageview statistics or if there are a very large number of bots that are generating page views by linking to the user pages of editors who edit certain pages.
Pine
Analytics mailing list Analytics@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics
-- Thank you.
Alex Druk alex.druk@gmail.com (775) 237-8550 Google voice
Analytics mailing list Analytics@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics
-- Oliver Keyes Research Analyst Wikimedia Foundation