Thanks for the info about double-counting
That is a good point that people have the alternative of reading about
Lila in article space. I can't think of a better explanation.
Pine
> Date: Sat, 10 May 2014 16:34:56 -0700
> From: Oliver Keyes <okeyes@wikimedia.org>
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> It should not double-count. Scenario: you go to [[Foo]], a redirect to
> [[Bar]]. A request is logged for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foo, and
> MediaWiki internally examines Foo, works out it's a redirect to Bar, and
> provides the content of Bar instead. None of that happens at a level where
> the requestlogs directly catch it - MediaWiki doesn't send back a message
> going "uh, I think you want Bar", necessitating a second request, it just
> provides Bar's content.
>
> In regards to Lila's page: maybe this is the first time people were pointed
> to her user page ;). I have no doubt that people are interested in finding
> out about her, but I imagine the reaction of most individuals would be to
> go to the article about her rather than her user page.
>
>
> On 10 May 2014 02:14, Alex Druk <alex.druk@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi there,
> >
> > I have no idea about Lila, but answer to your question about redirect and
> > articles is NO (at least in my opinion).
> >
> > If it would be double counting, number of hits on articles would be always
> > greater than on their redirects. It is not so. You can compare for example
> > page views on "Ghoramara" (redirect to Ghoramara Island) 24824 pageviews
> > in May according to stats.grok.se and "Ghoramara Island" (actual article)
> > - 68 pageviews.
> >
> > So, no double counting on stats.grok.se. It seems to me, that when user
> > used redirect the hit is listed in raw file, but actual article - not.
> >
> > Alex
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 9:48 AM, ENWP Pine <deyntestiss@hotmail.com>wrote:
> >
> >> Following up on
> >> http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/analytics/2014-April/001898.html
> >>
> >> Would including the redirect hits with the endpoint hits result in a
> >> user's single request for content being double-counted for the page where
> >> they eventually land?
> >>
> >> Here's another question about pageview statistics. On May 2 and May 3
> >> there are spikes in the statistics for many users' user pages on English
> >> Wikipedia, but en:User:LilaTretikov has surprisingly few page hits. Does
> >> anyone have an explanation for how Risker is getting a lot more userpage
> >> views than the new executive director is on English Wikipedia? I have a
> >> hard time believing that more people and bots are curious about the user
> >> pages of Risker and lots of other Wikipedians than they are about the user
> >> page of Lila in the past few weeks, so I am wondering if there is some
> >> error in the pageview statistics or if there are a very large number of
> >> bots that are generating page views by linking to the user pages of editors
> >> who edit certain pages.
> >>
> >> Pine
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