Hello,
I am publishing a paper reporting the impact of distributing information on Wikipedia.
One of the values which I am reporting is the pageviews of a set of English Wikipedia articles as measured from 2013 to 2015. I get pageviews from stats.grok.se. As I understand, numbers there have not always included mobile device pageviews.
What is best estimate of the count of mobile device pageviews as can be derived from the stats.grok.se pageview count? I think that I read somewhere for this range, mobile device pageviews have been supposed to be anywhere from 40% of the grok.se views to 120% of that value.
What is the most reasonable range to report for mobile device pageviews of English Wikipedia articles from 2013-2015? Is 40-120% of the stats.grok.se report the most reasonable range to report?
I need to report something. If there is any precedent for expressing this somewhere then I would like to follow the precedent and cite whatever paper described it.
Thanks,
Hi Lane,
As I remember correctly Oliver Keyes published a link to the graph on this mailing list in December "Pageviews, mobile versus desktop". You can check archives or ask Oliver okeyes@wikimedia.org.
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 6:50 PM, Lane Rasberry lane@bluerasberry.com wrote:
Hello,
I am publishing a paper reporting the impact of distributing information on Wikipedia.
One of the values which I am reporting is the pageviews of a set of English Wikipedia articles as measured from 2013 to 2015. I get pageviews from stats.grok.se. As I understand, numbers there have not always included mobile device pageviews.
What is best estimate of the count of mobile device pageviews as can be derived from the stats.grok.se pageview count? I think that I read somewhere for this range, mobile device pageviews have been supposed to be anywhere from 40% of the grok.se views to 120% of that value.
What is the most reasonable range to report for mobile device pageviews of English Wikipedia articles from 2013-2015? Is 40-120% of the stats.grok.se report the most reasonable range to report?
I need to report something. If there is any precedent for expressing this somewhere then I would like to follow the precedent and cite whatever paper described it.
Thanks,
-- Lane Rasberry user:bluerasberry on Wikipedia 206.801.0814 lane@bluerasberry.com
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Hah; good timing ;p.
Actually as far as I'm aware, the stats.grok.se users have /never/ included mobile. The dumps now include mobile data, sure, but I don't know if stats.grok.se surfaces that in its numbers.
On 13 May 2015 at 13:01, Alex Druk alex.druk@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Lane,
As I remember correctly Oliver Keyes published a link to the graph on this mailing list in December "Pageviews, mobile versus desktop". You can check archives or ask Oliver okeyes@wikimedia.org.
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 6:50 PM, Lane Rasberry lane@bluerasberry.com wrote:
Hello,
I am publishing a paper reporting the impact of distributing information on Wikipedia.
One of the values which I am reporting is the pageviews of a set of English Wikipedia articles as measured from 2013 to 2015. I get pageviews from stats.grok.se. As I understand, numbers there have not always included mobile device pageviews.
What is best estimate of the count of mobile device pageviews as can be derived from the stats.grok.se pageview count? I think that I read somewhere for this range, mobile device pageviews have been supposed to be anywhere from 40% of the grok.se views to 120% of that value.
What is the most reasonable range to report for mobile device pageviews of English Wikipedia articles from 2013-2015? Is 40-120% of the stats.grok.se report the most reasonable range to report?
I need to report something. If there is any precedent for expressing this somewhere then I would like to follow the precedent and cite whatever paper described it.
Thanks,
-- Lane Rasberry user:bluerasberry on Wikipedia 206.801.0814 lane@bluerasberry.com
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-- Thank you.
Alex Druk, PhD alex.druk@gmail.com wikipediatrends.com (775) 237-8550 Google voice
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(+ henrik)
Here is a quick test:
I took an item from wp:en main page news box: Lokiarchaeota [1]
For wp:en 2015-05-11: stats.grok.se [2] reports: 21970 hourly pagecount files [3] [4] report 23044 non mobile, 4268 mobile, together 27312 For wp:en 2015-05-12: stats.grok.se reports: 15242 hourly pagecount files report 16019 non mobile, 3384 mobile, together 19403
So stats.grok.se is even lower than non-mobile only. I didn't expect that, as stats.grok.se is often higher (incorporating redirects). Actually I'm puzzled as stats.grok.se uses those same hourly pagecount files (afaik non-mobile version [3]).
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lokiarchaeota [2] https://dumps.wikimedia.org/other/pagecounts-raw/2015/2015-05/ [3] https://dumps.wikimedia.org/other/pagecounts-raw/2015/2015-05/ (only non-mobile) [4] https://dumps.wikimedia.org/other/pagecounts-all-sites/2015/2015-05/ (mobile and non-mobile)
Erik Zachte
-----Original Message----- From: analytics-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:analytics-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Oliver Keyes Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 19:30 To: A mailing list for the Analytics Team at WMF and everybody who has an interest in Wikipedia and analytics. Subject: Re: [Analytics] need correction range for converting stats.grok.se to total views including mobile...
Hah; good timing ;p.
Actually as far as I'm aware, the stats.grok.se users have /never/ included mobile. The dumps now include mobile data, sure, but I don't know if stats.grok.se surfaces that in its numbers.
On 13 May 2015 at 13:01, Alex Druk alex.druk@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Lane,
As I remember correctly Oliver Keyes published a link to the graph on this mailing list in December "Pageviews, mobile versus desktop". You can check archives or ask Oliver okeyes@wikimedia.org.
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 6:50 PM, Lane Rasberry lane@bluerasberry.com wrote:
Hello,
I am publishing a paper reporting the impact of distributing information on Wikipedia.
One of the values which I am reporting is the pageviews of a set of English Wikipedia articles as measured from 2013 to 2015. I get pageviews from stats.grok.se. As I understand, numbers there have not always included mobile device pageviews.
What is best estimate of the count of mobile device pageviews as can be derived from the stats.grok.se pageview count? I think that I read somewhere for this range, mobile device pageviews have been supposed to be anywhere from 40% of the grok.se views to 120% of that value.
What is the most reasonable range to report for mobile device pageviews of English Wikipedia articles from 2013-2015? Is 40-120% of the stats.grok.se report the most reasonable range to report?
I need to report something. If there is any precedent for expressing this somewhere then I would like to follow the precedent and cite whatever paper described it.
Thanks,
-- Lane Rasberry user:bluerasberry on Wikipedia 206.801.0814 lane@bluerasberry.com
Analytics mailing list Analytics@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics
-- Thank you.
Alex Druk, PhD alex.druk@gmail.com wikipediatrends.com (775) 237-8550 Google voice
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-- Oliver Keyes Research Analyst Wikimedia Foundation
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