Hi all,
It seems comments are decreasing at this point. I'd like to slowly drive
this thread to a conclusion.
3. Create a plan to block clients that dont implement the (amended)
User-Agent policy.
I think we can decide on this later. Steps 1) and 2) can be done first -
they should be done anyway before 3) - and then we can see how much benefit
we raise from them. If we don't get a satisfactory reaction from
bot/framework maintainers, we then can go for 3). John, would you be OK
with that?
If no-one else raises concerns about this, the Analytics team will:
1. Add a mention to
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User-Agent_policy,
to encourage including the word "bot" (case-insensitive) in the User-Agent
string, so that bots can be easily identified.
2. Advertise the convention and reach out to bot/framework maintainers
to increase the share of bots that implement the User-Agent policy.
Thanks!
On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 5:21 AM, Bryan Davis <bd808(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 11:42 AM, Nuria Ruiz
<nuria(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
>It will take time for frameworks to implement
an amended User-Agent
policy.
For
example, pywikipedia (pywikibot compat) is not actively
maintained.
That doesn't imply we shouldn't have a policy that anyone can
refer to,
these bots will not follow it until they get some maintainers.
There was a task filled against Analytics for
this, but Dan Andreescu
removed Analytics (
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99373#1859170).
Sorry that the tagging is confusing. I think Analytics tag was removed
cause
this is a request for data and our team
doesn't do data retrieval. We
normally tag with "analytics" phabricator items that have actionables for
our team.
I am cc-ing Bryan who has already done some analysis on bots requests to
the
API and can probably provide some data.
It would be possible to make some relative comparisons of pywikibot
versions using the data that is currently collected in the
wmf.webrequest data set. "Someday" I'll get T108618 [0] finished which
will make answering some of the more granular questions in T99373
easier. Kunal talked with Brad and I a few weeks ago when we were all
in SF for the DevSummit about other instrumentation that could be put
in place specifically for pywikibot so that something like
Special:ApiFeatureUsage [2] could be created for pywikibot version
tracking as well. This all seems like a fork of the topic at hand
however.
[0]:
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108618
[1]:
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99373
[2]:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ApiFeatureUsage
Bryan
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