I would love it if people on this list or elsewhere would start identifying
the highest value reports from wikistats. We can also use traffic data to
figure out the most popular pages, but this doesn't always mean highest
value.
On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 1:51 PM, Erik Zachte <ezachte(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
Thanks for correcting me on this, Dan. The scope of
the upcoming API is
well defined, and not the cure-all that I make it seem to be in my
enthusiasm, sorry for causing confusion.
As you say replacing some of the traffic analyses will be separate task,
yet to be defined.
- I say 'some' as not all of the reports have found a true user base
- I reckon the primary delivarable might well change from html to machine
readable from which anyone can build nice more dynamic reports
*From:* analytics-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:
analytics-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *Dan Andreescu
*Sent:* Friday, July 24, 2015 19:08
*To:* A mailing list for the Analytics Team at WMF and everybody who has
an interest in Wikipedia and analytics.
*Subject:* Re: [Analytics] proposal to axe current traffic reports
I agree with you Erik, but there are some details that need sorting out.
* The Pageview API that we'll deliver by the end of this quarter will not
have the more detailed analysis that your traffic reports have (such as
referrer stats, browser stats, etc). We should make a separate effort,
probably as part of Wikistats 2.0 to cover those gaps.
* The data to power any of these reports is in great shape and is on the
hadoop cluster in a neatly pre-aggregated hourly table. We could use that
to start replicating these more detailed analyses from Wikistats.
On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 12:59 PM, Erik Zachte <erikzachte(a)infodisiac.com>
wrote:
Hi all,
I think the time has come to disable the traffic reports based on
webstatscollector (2.0) data.
See
http://stats.wikimedia.org/cgi-bin/search_portal.pl?search=breakdown+of+tra…
- These reports are using outdated definitions for page views.
- The scripts haven't seen any maintenance for years.
Even with the new pageview API still in development more and more these
reports are misreporting reality anyway.
There was a period were I felt imperfect reports were better than no
reports at all, and I warned about unresolved bugs in the report header.
But the anomaly reported below served as a wake-up-call for me that
mismatches are intolerably high anyway.
So I propose to put up a notice on the latest reports that those were the
last release, and WMF is working to deliver a new infrastructure in the
form of a pageview API, ETA later this year.
See also
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T44259
Whether WMF will also assume responsibility for building new reports on
top of that API (and if so in what form) is another matter, but first
things first. Current focus is on providing that API, as it should be IMO.
Any thoughts?
Erik Zachte
*From:* Erik Zachte [mailto:erikzachte@infodisiac.com]
*Sent:* Friday, July 24, 2015 17:58
*To:* 'Андрей Лавров'
*Subject:* RE: Wikimedia Traffic Analysis Report - Operating Systems
Hey Andrey,
You're totally right of course. And not the only to notice. These traffic
reports haven't seen much (maintenance) love lately. I'm tempted to disable
them. I'm looking forward to the upcoming WMF pageview API as much more
promising platform to build better reports: more up to date, more robust,
more flexible. Of course there is always a hazard to stop maintaining a
solution before a replacement is really there, but this is what actually
happened long ago.
Thanks for heads-up.
Erik
*From:* Андрей Лавров [mailto:andrey.lavrov@wancastle.com]
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 22, 2015 11:09
*To:* erikzachte(a)infodisiac.com
*Subject:* Wikimedia Traffic Analysis Report - Operating Systems
Dear Erik,
Please, improve your analysis reports by including Chrome OS statistics.
Chrome OS has about 10% market share in US now. Almost all chromebooks are
online every day. It is very strange to not see Chrome OS market share in
your reports.
Best regards,
Andrey Lavrov
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