I should add that the research-and-data team is also on board with this
approach. Honestly, I think it's a little silly that we make the
distinction between methodological expertise when we split the team up.
But "thick data", come on. We can get a better term than that? How about
"meaningful measurements"? Or we could just call it "competent
application
of methods".
-Aaron
On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 11:43 AM, Jonathan Morgan <jmorgan(a)wikimedia.org>
wrote:
Thanks for sharing this, Asaf and Raul. The design
research team is
(obviously) onboard with this approach.
Related: here's a post on doing ethnographic work in a Wikipedia context,
written for Medium by veteran Wikiresearcher Heather Ford:
https://medium.com/ethnography-matters/what-does-it-mean-to-be-a-participan…
Jonathan "I dearly miss my Nokia 925" Morgan
On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 6:04 AM, Toby Negrin <tnegrin(a)wikimedia.org>
wrote:
Hi Asaf --
Thanks for sharing this. It's a good article and there's a lot to agree
with. Certainly there's a clear need for both qualitative and quantitive
research and figuring out how to combine them is a worthwhile challenge. A
lot of modern productive development practices stress empathy, meeting
users where they are along with big data and we're certainly aspiring to
this level of work in the Reading team.
Where I think the Foundation and the Movement struggle is on the
evaluation side and I don't think the article addresses this issue
particularly well. Measuring the impact of non-profit work has always been
challenging and will continue to be so. It's certainly true that the
emphasis on big data has been less helpful here.
Finally, since I can't resist, Nokia failed because they didn't do
ethnographic research on their existing users in Europe and North America,
not potential users across the planet and missed the fact that people would
be thrilled to trade in their candy-bar phones for fancy iphones and
androids!
-Toby
On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 5:34 AM, Marcel Ruiz Forns <mforns(a)wikimedia.org>
wrote:
Awesome reading, I liked it a lot.
Thanks!
On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Asaf Bartov <abartov(a)wikimedia.org>
wrote:
Estonian Wikipedian Raul Veede, User:Oop, asked
to relay this link to
"the metrics people", so I am sending it here and to the Community
Engagement team at the Wikimedia Foundation.
<http://goog_433392935>
https://medium.com/ethnography-matters/why-big-data-needs-thick-data-b4b3e7…
Cheers,
A.
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