Yeah, makes sense.
On 3 March 2015 at 20:38, Nuria Ruiz <nuria(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
>Agreed. Do we have a way of syncing files to
Labs yet?
No need to sync if file is available in an endpoint like
htpp://some-data-here
On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 4:50 PM, Oliver Keyes <okeyes(a)wikimedia.org>
wrote:
>
> On 3 March 2015 at 19:35, Nuria Ruiz <nuria(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
> >>Erik has asked me to write an exploratory app for user-agent data.
> >> The
> >>idea is to enable Product Managers and engineers to easily explore
> >>what users use so they know what to support. I've thrown up an
> >> example
> >>screenshot at
http://ironholds.org/agents_example_screen.png
> >
> > I cannot speak as to the interest of community about this data but
> > for
> > developers and PM we should make sure we have a solid way to update
> > any
> > data
> > we put up. User Agent data is outdated as soon as a new version of
> > android
> > or iOs is released, a new popular phone comes along or a new
> > autoupdate
> > for
> > popular browsers. Not only that, if we make changes to, say, redirect
> > all
> > iPad users to the desktop site we want to asses effect of those
> > changes
> > as
> > soon as possible. A monthly update will be a must. Also
> > distinguishing
> > between browser percentages on desktop site versus mobile site versus
> > apps
> > is a must for this data to be real useful for PMs and developers
> > (specially
> > for bug triage).
> >
>
> Yes! However, I am addressing a specific ad-hoc request. If there is a
> need for this (I agree there is) I hope Toby and Kevin can eke out the
> time on the Analytics Engineering schedule to work on it; y'all are a
> lot better at infrastructure work than me :).
>
> >
> > We have couple backlog items to make monthly reports on this regard.
> > A
> > UI on
> > top of them will be superb.
> >
>
> Agreed. Do we have a way of syncing files to Labs yet? That's the
> biggest blocker. The UI doesn't care what the file contains as long as
> it's a TSV with a header row - I've deliberately built it so that
> things like the download links are dynamic and can change.
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 1:05 PM, Oliver Keyes <okeyes(a)wikimedia.org>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Hey all,
> >>
> >> (Sending this to the public list because it's more transparent and
> >> I'd
> >> like people who think this data is useful to be able to shout out)
> >>
> >> Erik has asked me to write an exploratory app for user-agent data.
> >> The
> >> idea is to enable Product Managers and engineers to easily explore
> >> what users use so they know what to support. I've thrown up an
> >> example
> >> screenshot at
http://ironholds.org/agents_example_screen.png (I'd
> >> host it on Commons, inb4Dario, but I'm not sure the copyright status
> >> of the UI)
> >>
> >> One side-effect of this is that we end up with files of common user
> >> agents, split between {readers,editors} and {mobile, desktop},
> >> parsed
> >> and unparsed. I'd like to release these files. The reuse potential
> >> is
> >> twofold; researchers and engineers can use the parsed files to see
> >> what browser penetration looks like globally and what browsers
> >> should
> >> be supported at a top-10, and software engineers can use the
> >> unparsed
> >> files to improve detection rates.
> >>
> >> The privacy implications /should/ be minimal, because of how this
> >> data
> >> is gathered. The editor data is gathered from the checkuser table,
> >> globally, and automatically excludes any user agent used by fewer
> >> than
> >> 50 distinct usernames. The reader data is gathered from a month of
> >> 1:1000 sampled log files, and excludes any agent responsible for
> >> fewer
> >> than 500 pageviews in a 24 hour period (except, sampled. So,
> >> practically speaking, that's 500,000 pageviews)
> >>
> >> What do people think about making this a data release? Would people
> >> get value from the data, as well as the tool?
> >>
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> >> Wikimedia Foundation
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