I agree that the list of problems for users of these reports is getting so
long that the relative value of these reports is less and less. They are
still very useful though. I think we should keep them until we have new
ones, because if you axe them now, no one will remember how or why they
were built (and you won't be able to point users in the right direction).
Often it's not until you kill a thing that the people who depended on that
thing come out from under the rocks to complain.
On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 6:59 PM, Erik Zachte <erikzachte(a)infodisiac.com>
wrote:
Hi all,
I think the time has come to disable the traffic reports based on
webstatscollector (2.0) data.
See
http://stats.wikimedia.org/cgi-bin/search_portal.pl?search=breakdown+of+tra…
- These reports are using outdated definitions for page views.
- The scripts haven't seen any maintenance for years.
Even with the new pageview API still in development more and more these
reports are misreporting reality anyway.
There was a period were I felt imperfect reports were better than no
reports at all, and I warned about unresolved bugs in the report header.
But the anomaly reported below served as a wake-up-call for me that
mismatches are intolerably high anyway.
So I propose to put up a notice on the latest reports that those were the
last release, and WMF is working to deliver a new infrastructure in the
form of a pageview API, ETA later this year.
See also
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T44259
Whether WMF will also assume responsibility for building new reports on
top of that API (and if so in what form) is another matter, but first
things first. Current focus is on providing that API, as it should be IMO.
Any thoughts?
Erik Zachte
*From:* Erik Zachte [mailto:erikzachte@infodisiac.com]
*Sent:* Friday, July 24, 2015 17:58
*To:* 'Андрей Лавров'
*Subject:* RE: Wikimedia Traffic Analysis Report - Operating Systems
Hey Andrey,
You're totally right of course. And not the only to notice. These traffic
reports haven't seen much (maintenance) love lately. I'm tempted to disable
them. I'm looking forward to the upcoming WMF pageview API as much more
promising platform to build better reports: more up to date, more robust,
more flexible. Of course there is always a hazard to stop maintaining a
solution before a replacement is really there, but this is what actually
happened long ago.
Thanks for heads-up.
Erik
*From:* Андрей Лавров [mailto:andrey.lavrov@wancastle.com]
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 22, 2015 11:09
*To:* erikzachte(a)infodisiac.com
*Subject:* Wikimedia Traffic Analysis Report - Operating Systems
Dear Erik,
Please, improve your analysis reports by including Chrome OS statistics.
Chrome OS has about 10% market share in US now. Almost all chromebooks are
online every day. It is very strange to not see Chrome OS market share in
your reports.
Best regards,
Andrey Lavrov
_______________________________________________
Analytics mailing list
Analytics(a)lists.wikimedia.org
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics