Hello all,
Based on a suggestion of Chris Cooley on the wiki, let's pull the topic of "Theoretical and practical underpinnings of the natural language generation" earlier. I started a page (basically empty), and hope we'll over time work together on the structure of the page.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Abstract_Wikipedia/Related_and_previous_work...
Abstract Wikipedia will generate natural language text from an abstract representation. This is not a novel idea, and it has been tried a number of times before.
On this new page we aim to collect different existing approaches. It tries to summarize the core ideas of the different approaches, their advantages and disadvantages, and point to existing implementations. This page (by and for the community) will help to choose which approach to focus on first when we get to it.
We have some time - I hope that part of the project will kick off in 12-18 months, it all goes well. It would be great if we would have a good and understandable overview of the state of the art by then.
Thanks everyone, Denny
I started a page (basically empty), and hope we'll over time work
together on the structure of the page.
Denny, this is a great starting wiki page to have!
let's pull the topic of "Theoretical and practical underpinnings of the
natural language generation" earlier
I think an important early task for this topic should be identifying and involving stakeholders. For example, see the draft task at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Abstract_Wikipedia/Tasks#Task_PP2.2:_Id.... The continual input and review of these stakeholders (in addition to events like the upcoming workshop) will be needed to create a quality result for the topic.
Thanks,
Chris Cooley
On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 6:32 PM Denny Vrandečić dvrandecic@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hello all,
Based on a suggestion of Chris Cooley on the wiki, let's pull the topic of "Theoretical and practical underpinnings of the natural language generation" earlier. I started a page (basically empty), and hope we'll over time work together on the structure of the page.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Abstract_Wikipedia/Related_and_previous_work...
Abstract Wikipedia will generate natural language text from an abstract representation. This is not a novel idea, and it has been tried a number of times before.
On this new page we aim to collect different existing approaches. It tries to summarize the core ideas of the different approaches, their advantages and disadvantages, and point to existing implementations. This page (by and for the community) will help to choose which approach to focus on first when we get to it.
We have some time - I hope that part of the project will kick off in 12-18 months, it all goes well. It would be great if we would have a good and understandable overview of the state of the art by then.
Thanks everyone, Denny
Abstract-Wikipedia mailing list Abstract-Wikipedia@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/abstract-wikipedia
Chris,
yes, I agree that's a great and necessary idea. Let's get the page in a slightly better shape first, so that people who don't know their way around wikis that well, know how to contribute, and then I am happy to ask a few people to spread the word. (Or anyone else can do) Just right now the page looks a bit bare and not very actionable. If someone could take the lead there, I'd be very grateful!
Thanks, Denny
On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 10:18 AM Chris Cooley chris.cooley.mail@gmail.com wrote:
I started a page (basically empty), and hope we'll over time work
together on the structure of the page.
Denny, this is a great starting wiki page to have!
let's pull the topic of "Theoretical and practical underpinnings of the
natural language generation" earlier
I think an important early task for this topic should be identifying and involving stakeholders. For example, see the draft task at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Abstract_Wikipedia/Tasks#Task_PP2.2:_Id.... The continual input and review of these stakeholders (in addition to events like the upcoming workshop) will be needed to create a quality result for the topic.
Thanks,
Chris Cooley
On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 6:32 PM Denny Vrandečić dvrandecic@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hello all,
Based on a suggestion of Chris Cooley on the wiki, let's pull the topic of "Theoretical and practical underpinnings of the natural language generation" earlier. I started a page (basically empty), and hope we'll over time work together on the structure of the page.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Abstract_Wikipedia/Related_and_previous_work...
Abstract Wikipedia will generate natural language text from an abstract representation. This is not a novel idea, and it has been tried a number of times before.
On this new page we aim to collect different existing approaches. It tries to summarize the core ideas of the different approaches, their advantages and disadvantages, and point to existing implementations. This page (by and for the community) will help to choose which approach to focus on first when we get to it.
We have some time - I hope that part of the project will kick off in 12-18 months, it all goes well. It would be great if we would have a good and understandable overview of the state of the art by then.
Thanks everyone, Denny
Abstract-Wikipedia mailing list Abstract-Wikipedia@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/abstract-wikipedia
Abstract-Wikipedia mailing list Abstract-Wikipedia@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/abstract-wikipedia
Denny,
I think that is a very sensible plan. My only fear is that we risk entrenching whatever the biases are of our still nascent community before we have even really begun. With sufficient awareness, however, I do believe that we will be able to avoid this fate. I will still argue that even outlining the possible domain stakeholders in very broad strokes of subfield or sub-subfield will be incredibly helpful in our initial treatment of related and previous work.
I would be happy to take the lead with others on developing the page.
Thanks,
Chris Cooley
On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 2:06 PM Denny Vrandečić dvrandecic@wikimedia.org wrote:
Chris,
yes, I agree that's a great and necessary idea. Let's get the page in a slightly better shape first, so that people who don't know their way around wikis that well, know how to contribute, and then I am happy to ask a few people to spread the word. (Or anyone else can do) Just right now the page looks a bit bare and not very actionable. If someone could take the lead there, I'd be very grateful!
Thanks, Denny
On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 10:18 AM Chris Cooley chris.cooley.mail@gmail.com wrote:
I started a page (basically empty), and hope we'll over time work
together on the structure of the page.
Denny, this is a great starting wiki page to have!
let's pull the topic of "Theoretical and practical underpinnings of the
natural language generation" earlier
I think an important early task for this topic should be identifying and involving stakeholders. For example, see the draft task at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Abstract_Wikipedia/Tasks#Task_PP2.2:_Id.... The continual input and review of these stakeholders (in addition to events like the upcoming workshop) will be needed to create a quality result for the topic.
Thanks,
Chris Cooley
On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 6:32 PM Denny Vrandečić dvrandecic@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hello all,
Based on a suggestion of Chris Cooley on the wiki, let's pull the topic of "Theoretical and practical underpinnings of the natural language generation" earlier. I started a page (basically empty), and hope we'll over time work together on the structure of the page.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Abstract_Wikipedia/Related_and_previous_work...
Abstract Wikipedia will generate natural language text from an abstract representation. This is not a novel idea, and it has been tried a number of times before.
On this new page we aim to collect different existing approaches. It tries to summarize the core ideas of the different approaches, their advantages and disadvantages, and point to existing implementations. This page (by and for the community) will help to choose which approach to focus on first when we get to it.
We have some time - I hope that part of the project will kick off in 12-18 months, it all goes well. It would be great if we would have a good and understandable overview of the state of the art by then.
Thanks everyone, Denny
Abstract-Wikipedia mailing list Abstract-Wikipedia@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/abstract-wikipedia
Abstract-Wikipedia mailing list Abstract-Wikipedia@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/abstract-wikipedia
Abstract-Wikipedia mailing list Abstract-Wikipedia@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/abstract-wikipedia
I hope that the following hyperlinks can be of use:
https://aclweb.org/aclwiki/Natural_Language_Generation_Portal https://aclweb.org/aclwiki/User:ChristianPietsch/List_of_NLG_systems https://aclweb.org/aclwiki/Downloadable_NLG_systems
Best regards, Adam
Indeed! I remember going through that list and discovering that almost all these links seem dead :(
Please add it to the wiki page, it is a good start!
On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 10:27 AM Adam Sobieski adamsobieski@hotmail.com wrote:
I hope that the following hyperlinks can be of use:
https://aclweb.org/aclwiki/Natural_Language_Generation_Portal
https://aclweb.org/aclwiki/User:ChristianPietsch/List_of_NLG_systems
https://aclweb.org/aclwiki/Downloadable_NLG_systems
Best regards,
Adam
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