I updated the Wikifact project proposal with some initial content on these topics and will
update it more over the weekend.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikifact#Quotations_and_attestations
P.S.: For language enthusiasts, I’m also recently thinking about a related topic of
evidentiality:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evidentiality .
From: Adam Sobieski<mailto:adamsobieski@hotmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2021 1:10 AM
To: General public mailing list for the discussion of Abstract Wikipedia (aka
Wikilambda)<mailto:abstract-wikipedia@lists.wikimedia.org>
Subject: Re: [Abstract-wikipedia] URL-addressable statements and clusters of statements
Thad,
Thank you for bringing up quotations. I’m thinking about how best to update the Wikifact
project proposal with some new content and discussion about quotations, including
hyperlinks to
https://schema.org/Quotation and Wikidata’s
quotation<https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1683>83>, and including indication of
scenarios or examples where quotations are part of the fact basis.
With regard to “recursive constructability” or “the reification of statements so that they
can be used as arguments”, resembling said(Douglas_Adams, ate(Douglas_Adams, apple)), this
could resemble, for a URL-based syntax, via use of the URL encoding (or
percent-encoding):
https://www.wikifact.org/patterns/B25625EC-8899-4148-9E33-B26FDBE4EC23?auth…
for a set of statements resembling: “Douglas Adams said that he ate an apple.”
and/or could resemble:
https://www.wikifact.org/patterns/B25625EC-8899-4148-9E33-B26FDBE4EC23?auth…
or
https://www.wikifact.org/patterns/B25625EC-8899-4148-9E33-B26FDBE4EC23?auth…
for a set of statements resembling: “Douglas Adams said
{33DCF305-3A4D-4024-9AD7-CCB1A29054E2}.”
Best regards,
Adam
From: Thad Guidry<mailto:thadguidry@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2021 3:21 PM
To: General public mailing list for the discussion of Abstract Wikipedia (aka
Wikilambda)<mailto:abstract-wikipedia@lists.wikimedia.org>
Subject: Re: [Abstract-wikipedia] URL-addressable statements and clusters of statements
SJ - Rephrasing... reminds me of some of the discussion we had within
Schema.org where I
pushed for Quotation often.
https://schema.org/Quotation where we didn't put much
work into helping connect more dots, but still it's there.
Quotations often tie into facts, "he said/she said", dispute resolution, etc.
And where it seems Wikidata's
quotation<https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1683> property might also somehow
play a part in your proposal.
Adam - I think it would be nice to have a concrete example of some clusters where a
quotation is part of the fact basis.
Thad
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