I updated the Wikifact project proposal with some initial content on these topics and will update it more over the weekend.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikifact#Quotations_and_attestations
P.S.: For language enthusiasts, I’m also recently thinking about a related topic of evidentiality: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evidentiality .
From: Adam Sobieski
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2021 1:10 AM
To: General public mailing list for the discussion of Abstract Wikipedia (aka Wikilambda)
Subject: Re: [Abstract-wikipedia] URL-addressable statements and clusters of statements
Thad,
Thank you for bringing up quotations. I’m thinking about how best to update the Wikifact project proposal with some new content and discussion about quotations, including hyperlinks to
https://schema.org/Quotation and Wikidata’s
quotation, and including indication of scenarios or examples where quotations are part of the fact basis.
With regard to “recursive constructability” or “the reification of statements so that they can be used as arguments”, resembling
said(Douglas_Adams, ate(Douglas_Adams, apple)), this could resemble, for a URL-based syntax, via use of the URL encoding (or percent-encoding):
for a set of statements resembling: “Douglas Adams said that he ate an apple.”
and/or could resemble:
or
for a set of statements resembling: “Douglas Adams said {33DCF305-3A4D-4024-9AD7-CCB1A29054E2}.”
Best regards,
Adam
From: Thad Guidry
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2021 3:21 PM
To: General public mailing list for the discussion of Abstract Wikipedia (aka Wikilambda)
Subject: Re: [Abstract-wikipedia] URL-addressable statements and clusters of statements
SJ - Rephrasing... reminds me of some of the discussion we had within Schema.org where
I pushed for Quotation often. https://schema.org/Quotation where
we didn't put much work into helping connect more dots, but still it's there.
Quotations often tie into facts, "he said/she said", dispute resolution, etc.
And where it seems Wikidata's
quotation property might also somehow play
a part in your proposal.
Adam - I think it would be nice to have a concrete example of some clusters where a
quotation is part of the fact basis.