I see this was also announced on the WM-UK blog -
http://blog.wikimedia.org.uk/2014/01/wellcome-images-freely-releases-100000…
I've copied in Jonathan who is the WMUK GLAM coordinator in case he's had
any involvement in Wellcome's announcement. Perhaps he can lend insight?
I've worked on quite a few image-release negotiations and it is possible
that this has been done this way through honest mistake, through justifed
fears, through meddling of the legal/marketing departments.... I quite
like Andy Mabbett's comment on Wellcome's blog announcement, sums up the
problems (legal and technological) quite well in my opinion:
"It’s great to have these images available, digitally, but why are you
claiming copyright over, and to be the *original* source of, artworks and
images from books which are already in the public domain? Why have you
added a strapline underneath each image? And why is the precess of
downloading high resolution versions of these public-domain works so
tortuous, with a CAPTCHA, irrelevant terms & condition, and zipped files –
why not make them available directly?" - (comment no.3)
http://blog.wellcomelibrary.org/2014/01/thousands-of-years-of-visual-cultur…
I also agree with Andy's response here - to chose option 2b - take the
images that we can, label them as PD and *politely* explain (preferably in
person) why we do not legally recognise their CC-BY claim even though we
WILL make every effort to attribute properly. While we're at it, I would
point Wellcome to the Europeana PD charter
http://pro.europeana.eu/web/europeana-project/public-domain-charter-en
-Liam
wittylama.com
Peace, love & metadata
On 22 January 2014 09:42, Andy Mabbett <andy(a)pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote:
On 21 January 2014 16:53, Magnus Manske
<magnusmanske(a)googlemail.com>
wrote:
So, we have the following options:
1. Ignore them (pity)
Not going to happen; note work-in-progress, and discussion, at:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Batch_uploading/Wellcome_Images_…
2. Upload them as public domain and re-iterate
the National Portrait
Gallery
issue, and teach them that these open content
wiki people are not to be
trusted
2b politely explain to WT that their licence statement is in error,
and why, and that even if people in the UK abide by it, it is
unenforceable internationally.
3. Label them CC-BY so the Wellcome Trust can get
a mandatory
attribution,
which we would do anyway
No, for the reasons stated by Christoph, and in the Commons discussion
cited above. And we would not advise re-users that the attribution is
mandatory.
--
Andy Mabbett
@pigsonthewing
http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
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