Abhishek, the Chapter hasn't criticised CIS publicly. If you are
refering to my mail addressed to Mr. Vishnu, it came from my personal
email address in my capacity as a community member. Thank you for
reminding me, I shall add that disclaimer to my signature from now on.
Regards,
On 2/12/13, Abhishek Suryawanshi <i.abhishek.suryawanshi(a)gmail.com> wrote:
*I understand
this might be a serious issue, but I trust all India
mailing list is definitely not the platform for discussion.
*
India Community deserves to know answers. At one end Chapter is criticizing
CIS continuously on other hand its accepting financial help from them and I
am wondering whats wrong in acknowledging it! If someone is helping then
its ethical and normal to acknowledge it?
Its might be beginning of new era - where Chapter is focusing on outreach
and activities events and CIS taking care of financial needs.
Its good to see its already started..
*we will have to move beyond the question to get the answe*r.
Chapter should be ready to share answers.
Regards,
Abhishek Suryawanshi,
On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 11:50 PM, Abhijith Jayanthi <
abhijithsince1986(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> Guys,
> I understand this might be a serious
issue, but I trust all India mailing
> list is definitely not the platform for discussion. Please continue this
> conversation privately, also - wanted to check on couple of points:
> (1) Do we have a policy of permitted
issues to be discussed over the all
> India Mailing list - if not, there is a necessity to work on it.
> (2) Disclosures and grievance handling procedures should be shared with
> each member upon joining and the mechanism should be followed.
> Again, pointing fingers or rephrasing
the issue itself is not the
> solution
> - we will have to move beyond the question to get the answer.
> - abhijith
>
------------------------------
> *From:* Srikanth Ramakrishnan <srik.ramk(a)wikimedia.in
> *To:* Wikimedia
India Community list
> <wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 12 February
2013 11:31 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] why
to donate
> Membership under processing is
differnt from memvership alreadt
> processed.
> INDI-31 is non existant and will remain so.
> As for CIS funding, you still
havwn't said where you have got the
> "information" from.
> The Chapter has alwaya made things public and will xontinue to do so. If
> the CIS funds us, it will be madw public.
> n Tuesday, February 12, 2013, Abhishek
Suryawanshi <
> i.abhishek.suryawanshi(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> > Dear Srikanth,
> > I appreciate you keep a check of the Chapter Membership List. But at
> > the
> same time I guess you will also respect the Chapter President's word. I
> have had a talk with Sudhanwa (President,Wikimedia India Chapter) and
> just
> two days back he informed me that my Chapter-membership is being proceed.
> I
> would like you to have or increase your communications with other EC
> members (or at-least with President) before claiming me or anybody else
> with allegations such as a 'Cheat' :)
>
> > P.S : How does it affects my
query about CIS funding chapter's travel
> for Board meeting or not ?
>
>
>
> >
Regards,
> > Abhishek Suryawanshi,
> > On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune
>
>
>
>
> > On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 10:50 PM,
Srikanth Ramakrishnan <
> srik.ramk(a)wikimedia.in> wrote:
>
> > Just to inform you that
Abhishek Suryawanshi, who claims to be a
> > Chapter Member with membership number INDI-31 is NOT a member. The
> > entry currently doesn't exist in our membership list. Mr. Suryawanshi
> > was a member of the Chapter during the earlier Financial Year and did
> > NOT renew his membership. I hope the community is now aware of what
> > kind of people it is dealing with.
>
> > On 2/12/13, Abhishek
Suryawanshi <i.abhishek.suryawanshi(a)gmail.com
> wrote:
> >> *@Karthik - *
> >
> >
> >> *If you have a question, you can ask it in the form
of a question *
> >
> >
> >> Why Chapter is denying/ignoring fact flight tickets
for members are
> covered
> >> by third party?
> >
> >> *instead **of
making unsubstantiated claims on a public mailing
> >> list,*
> >>
> >
> >> Do you mean to say 'CIS is
supporting' part is unsubstantiated? Then
> please
> >> state who is covering travel expenses?
> >
> >> *which is frankly
unproductive since it requires us to spend time to
> send
> >>> out clarifications. *
> >
> >
> >> Could you please elaborate 'unproductive'
term and 'sending out
> >> clarification' part? What clarification is given? On contrary You are
> >> putting up efforts to blur whole situation.
> >
> >
> >> *@Sudhanwa - *
> >
> >
> >> *> 2)Major Chapter Expenses such as Flight Tickets
for AGM are covered
> by
> >>> CIS.
> >>
> >>> Absolutely
wrong information you have go*t.
> >>
> >
> >> AGM word is wrong and Board
Meeting is correct, right? Please correct
> >> if
> >> wrong.
> >
> >
> >> *> I am waiting for someone to answer simple query
- How much money is
> >>> required
> >>> > for next year activities? and Which activities are planned?
> >>
> >>> Grant
requests are always on public wiki and the numbers are always
> >>> open to all for discussions. You will find these details in the
> >>> upcoming requests. Asaf has already indicated the same on the list.
> >>
> >>> If you have
any activities planned, please let us know. We will plan
> >>> the resources accordingly (budgets, people etc) Same request also
> >>> goes
> >>> to all the people in the community. Please let us know what you want
> >>> to do. We are here to support you in whatever best way we can. Do not
> >>> hesitate to ask for suppo*rt.
> >>
> >
> >> It seems you are missing out whole
point, I am talking about fixed
> expenses
> >> and 'possible' activities. Like Board meeting travel expenses.
Which
> can be
> >> covered and are (already) getting covered by third parties like CIS.
> >
> >> So it makes more
sense to spend volunteer efforts on outreach kind of
> >> activities than running for money? specially when third parties are
> >> interested in supporting financially?
> >
> >> When CIS is wrong,
there is hard criticism, and when they support
> >> financially - I guess there could be minimum acknowledgement?.
> >> I think CIS may help chapter to cover other expenses also if needed.
> >> So
> >> Chapter can focus on productive outreach and activities?
> >
> >
> >
>
>> *@Dhaval - *
> >
> >
> >> *> 1)Chapter is having 1.5 Lack+ Rupees in
existing account. *
> >>
> >>> *And what do
you think could be done by that HUGE AMOUNT of 1.5+
> >>> Indian
> >>> Rupees?*
> >>
> >>> *I think
chapter has its office in Bangalore and based on my
> experience,
> >>> I know that any property requires paying off few bills, e.g.
> electricity,
> >>> water, property tax, tel/internet (if it has got) and these things
> >>> are
> >>> not
> >>> so cheap in Today's India as they were in my days of teen (20 years
> >>> ago).*
> >>
> >
> >> That is base amount, Someone from
Chapter might be able to answer
> >> exact
> >> fixed expenses? Its always easy to find 'in-kind' donations as
> >> compared
> to
> >> cash. Its difficult specially when tax exemption is missing. And it
> might
> >> need extra efforts to run for money.
> >> And why? There are people/organization which are taking care of
> >> expenses
> >> already!
> >
> >> These expenses can
be covered easily if there is clarity on 'what is
> >> needed'.
> >
> >> I have already
explained 'in-kind' donation concept, Please see :
> >>
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia
>
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> Member of the Executive Committee
> Wikimedia Chapter [India]
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