http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ABarras&action=histo…
O que essa pessoa tem na cabeça????????
*Nós somos A WIKIMEDIA BRASIL
F***-SE QUE ELA NÃO ESTÁ CONTENTE COM ISSO
*Sim, eu falei palavras de baixo calão, mas não sou quem está querendo fuder
com as coisas aqui. Estou de saco cheio disso. Duvido que seja o único.
Lembrem-se que para estar aqui tem que seguir a Carta, vejam se isso
1. O sonho de unir precede a iniciativa de afastar;
2. O gesto de compartilhar precede o interesse de apropriar;
3. A liberdade de criar precede a possibilidade de controlar;
4. A vontade de ouvir precede o ato de falar;
5. O desafio de compreender precede a oportunidade de criticar.
É compatível com as atitudes dessa pessoa. Se não for, está fora, a lista é
aberta a todos, que não fogem à Carta, esse estrupo recente não deve ser
deixado de lado.
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Já respondi. Questionário muito simples. Se puderem colaborar com o colega,
aposto que ele ficará muito feliz! :D
Beijinhos!!!
Ceci
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Mihály Héder
Date: 2011/3/3
Subject: Wikipedia survey for the Sztakipedia project
Dear All,
I would like to ask you a little, but important help.
I'm doing research on the future of the Wikipedia editor interface. In order
to understand better the view of the Wikiepedia users I compiled a survey.
With filling the forms you can contribute to the survey, and your view will
be taken into account assessing the general requirements of the editors of
Wikipedia, and also that of the readers of Wikipedia.
Please help me by filling the following form (it takes 3 minutes max):
http://pedia.sztaki.hu/survey_en
*and* by forwarding this mail to everyone you can think of. The more (and
not only tech-savvy) people we reach, the better. So please, do not leave
out anyone who has the slightest chance to use the internet (friends,
family, students, mailing lists, neighbours, classmates, co-workers, etc.)
The results will be available in raw form and explained by 31/03/2011 at:
http://pedia.sztaki.hu , and also I will compile a white paper in the
subject (strictly for an Open Access journal)
(if this letter reaches you more than once it is my fault)
Thank you very much:
Mihály Héder
Computer and Automation Research Institute of the Hungarian Academy of
Sciences +
Budapest University of Technology, Philosophy of Science PhD student
Oi,
Gostei muito de ver esses dados (enviados pela Carol), são um referência do
que deve ser feito agora, pelo menos inicialmente. Algo que foi comentado,
necessidade de fontes. Vi os sites que a Carol enviou e deu pra ter uma
ideia do que podemos e queremos fazer.
Seria bom discutir com os interessados os passos para realização desse
trabalho, temos que ter os passos necessários bem detalhados. Por falar
nisso, Carol me passou uma apresentação feita pelo Diederik, o principal
desenvolvedor da ferramenta de análise, o Editor-Trends:
http://www.slideshare.net/dvanliere/wikilytics
É bom saber que existem mais pessoas interessadas nesse trabalho.
Abraços,
Jonas Augusto
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> Tópicos de Hoje:
>
> 1. Re: dados sobre Wikipedistas no Brasil (Carolina Rossini)
> 2. Re: dados sobre Wikipedistas no Brasil (rjclaudio)
>
>
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>
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 10:25:48 -0800
> From: Carolina Rossini <carolrossiniatwiki(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Brasil] dados sobre Wikipedistas no Brasil
> To: Mailing list do Capítulo brasileiro da Wikimedia.
> <wikimediabr-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
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> dados de 2005 ja sao muito velhos...entendo que novos dados serao
> publicados
> este ano...abaixo, enviei os mais recentes coletados pelo CGI...mas, como
> podem ver...so dados gerais...
>
> mais info aqui:
>
> http://www.cetic.br/usuarios/ibope/index.htm
>
> http://www.cetic.br/tic/5anos/index.htm
>
>
> 2011/3/2 Carolina Rossini <carolrossiniatwiki(a)gmail.com>
>
> > Penetration of internet users (through any type of location and internet
> > access type) (data CGI 2009)
> >
> > Sudeste (Southeast) (that includes Sao Paulo, Rio de Janeiro, Espirito
> > Santo e Minas Gerais) = 45%
> >
> > Sul (South) (that includes Rio Grande do Sul, Santa Catarina, Parana) =
> > 43%
> >
> > Nordeste (Northeast) (that includes Alagoas, Bahia, Ceara, Rio Grande do
> > Norte, Piaui, Paraiba, Pernambuco, Maranhao) = 30%
> >
> > Centro-Oeste (Cester-West) (that includes Mato Grosso, Mato Grosso do
> Sul,
> > Goias e Distrito Federal - Brasilia) = 45%
> >
> > Norte (North) (that includes Amazon, Acre. Amapa, Para, Rondonia, Roraima
> > e Tocantins) .= 30%
> >
> > 2011/3/2 Everton Zanella Alvarenga <everton137(a)gmail.com>
> >
> > MS tem 3 milhões de pessoas e, segundo esse gráfico do IBGE:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> http://www.ibge.gov.br/home/estatistica/populacao/acessoainternet/default.s…
> >> (clique em "acessar os gráficos dinâmicos")
> >>
> >> em 2005, 23% teve acesso à Internet, ou seja, aproximadamente 700 mil
> >> pessoas. No mesmo ano, MG, com aproximadamente 20 milhões de
> >> habitantes, teve 19% da população com acessso, ou seja,
> >> aproximadamente 3,6 milhões.
> >>
> >> Ness quadro MG teria metade dos acessos de MS à Wikipédia? Eu duvido.
> >>
> >> Quem levantou essa estatística e como ela foi feita?
> >>
> >> Em 2 de março de 2011 15:04, João <jolorib(a)gmail.com> escreveu:
> >> > Mato Grosso tem 3M em 190 M (1,6 %) de habitantes e 15.8 % dos page
> >> views?
> >> > Parece que tem algo errado nesse número.
> >> >
> >> > Jo
> >> >
> >> > Em 2 de março de 2011 14:54, rjclaudio <rjclaudio.wiki(a)gmail.com>
> >> escreveu:
> >> >>
> >> >> Seria bom algum comparativo com o numero de pessoas ou numero de
> >> pessoas
> >> >> com acesso a internet. pra ver a probabilidade de uma pessoa
> aleatória
> >> de um
> >> >> estado usar a wiki.
> >> >>
> >> >> Em média, de um grupo de 100 pessoas de um estado, quantas usam a
> wiki?
> >> >> Tipo, pense nos seus amigos. Será que você tem pelo menos uma pessoa
> >> que já
> >> >> usa a wikipedia?
> >> >> Ou dados sobre representatividade. Pode ter 10 vezes mais usuários em
> >> um
> >> >> estado que no outro, mas se tiver 20 vezes mais população então tem
> >> menos
> >> >> representação. Quanto mais representação mais fácil de alguém
> conhecer
> >> algum
> >> >> usuário da wiki, e mais fácil a conversão.
> >> >> Tem como acessar a fonte desses dados sobre page view por região?
> WP:V
> >> =P
> >> >> Quem sabe tem mais coisas interessantes.
> >> >>
> >> >> rjclaudio
> >> >> User of pt.wiki
> >> >> Em 2 de março de 2011 14:38, Carolina Rossini
> >> >> <carolrossiniatwiki(a)gmail.com> escreveu:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> OIe, pessoal
> >> >>> olhem que interessante esses dados sobre uso da Wikipedia no Brasil
> >> por
> >> >>> estado
> >> >>> "The first column is the region name in Brazil, the second column is
> >> the
> >> >>> percentage of views from Brazil that region had in a typical week,
> so
> >> for
> >> >>> example Minas Gerais had 8% of all views from Brazil. The next
> >> column is
> >> >>> the edits to views ratio...it's not a meaningful number other than
> it
> >> gives
> >> >>> us an idea of where most people are trying to edit from, so in this
> >> case Rio
> >> >>> Grande do Sul has the highest concentration of editors per readers.
> >> The
> >> >>> final column is the number of successful edits by region, or the
> >> percentage
> >> >>> of edits made in a given area that are successful (ie the user
> didn't
> >> just
> >> >>> click "edit" then wander off). Again, not a useful number except
> for
> >> >>> comparison, and again, we see Rio Grande do Sul has the highest
> >> >>> concentration of successful edits."
> >> >>> fiquei surpresa com Mato Grosso e "esperava mais" de Sao Paulo..
> >> >>> comentarios?
> >> >>> bjs
> >> >>> Carol
> >> >>> _______________________________________________
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> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 16:01:31 -0300
> From: rjclaudio <rjclaudio.wiki(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Brasil] dados sobre Wikipedistas no Brasil
> To: Mailing list do Capítulo brasileiro da Wikimedia.
> <wikimediabr-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
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> Carol, ainda nao falou de onde veio os numeros de page view / edições.
> Vamos entrar num acordo, sempre q enviar estatísticas / dados externos
> envia
> também a fonte. Sempre dá pra fuxicar os sites e achar mais alguma coisa
> pra
> pegar, ou se for acessível sugerir mais estudos / pesquisas.
>
> Claudio Barbosa
>
> Em 2 de março de 2011 15:25, Carolina Rossini
> <carolrossiniatwiki(a)gmail.com>escreveu:
>
> > dados de 2005 ja sao muito velhos...entendo que novos dados serao
> > publicados este ano...abaixo, enviei os mais recentes coletados pelo
> > CGI...mas, como podem ver...so dados gerais...
> >
> > mais info aqui:
> >
> > http://www.cetic.br/usuarios/ibope/index.htm
> >
> > http://www.cetic.br/tic/5anos/index.htm
> >
> >
> > 2011/3/2 Carolina Rossini <carolrossiniatwiki(a)gmail.com>
> >
> > Penetration of internet users (through any type of location and internet
> >> access type) (data CGI 2009)
> >>
> >> Sudeste (Southeast) (that includes Sao Paulo, Rio de Janeiro, Espirito
> >> Santo e Minas Gerais) = 45%
> >>
> >> Sul (South) (that includes Rio Grande do Sul, Santa Catarina, Parana) =
> >> 43%
> >>
> >> Nordeste (Northeast) (that includes Alagoas, Bahia, Ceara, Rio Grande do
> >> Norte, Piaui, Paraiba, Pernambuco, Maranhao) = 30%
> >>
> >> Centro-Oeste (Cester-West) (that includes Mato Grosso, Mato Grosso do
> >> Sul, Goias e Distrito Federal - Brasilia) = 45%
> >>
> >> Norte (North) (that includes Amazon, Acre. Amapa, Para, Rondonia,
> Roraima
> >> e Tocantins) .= 30%
> >>
> >> 2011/3/2 Everton Zanella Alvarenga <everton137(a)gmail.com>
> >>
> >> MS tem 3 milhões de pessoas e, segundo esse gráfico do IBGE:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> http://www.ibge.gov.br/home/estatistica/populacao/acessoainternet/default.s…
> >>> (clique em "acessar os gráficos dinâmicos")
> >>>
> >>> em 2005, 23% teve acesso à Internet, ou seja, aproximadamente 700 mil
> >>> pessoas. No mesmo ano, MG, com aproximadamente 20 milhões de
> >>> habitantes, teve 19% da população com acessso, ou seja,
> >>> aproximadamente 3,6 milhões.
> >>>
> >>> Ness quadro MG teria metade dos acessos de MS à Wikipédia? Eu duvido.
> >>>
> >>> Quem levantou essa estatística e como ela foi feita?
> >>>
> >>> Em 2 de março de 2011 15:04, João <jolorib(a)gmail.com> escreveu:
> >>> > Mato Grosso tem 3M em 190 M (1,6 %) de habitantes e 15.8 % dos page
> >>> views?
> >>> > Parece que tem algo errado nesse número.
> >>> >
> >>> > Jo
> >>> >
> >>> > Em 2 de março de 2011 14:54, rjclaudio <rjclaudio.wiki(a)gmail.com>
> >>> escreveu:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Seria bom algum comparativo com o numero de pessoas ou numero de
> >>> pessoas
> >>> >> com acesso a internet. pra ver a probabilidade de uma pessoa
> aleatória
> >>> de um
> >>> >> estado usar a wiki.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Em média, de um grupo de 100 pessoas de um estado, quantas usam a
> >>> wiki?
> >>> >> Tipo, pense nos seus amigos. Será que você tem pelo menos uma pessoa
> >>> que já
> >>> >> usa a wikipedia?
> >>> >> Ou dados sobre representatividade. Pode ter 10 vezes mais usuários
> em
> >>> um
> >>> >> estado que no outro, mas se tiver 20 vezes mais população então tem
> >>> menos
> >>> >> representação. Quanto mais representação mais fácil de alguém
> conhecer
> >>> algum
> >>> >> usuário da wiki, e mais fácil a conversão.
> >>> >> Tem como acessar a fonte desses dados sobre page view por região?
> WP:V
> >>> =P
> >>> >> Quem sabe tem mais coisas interessantes.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> rjclaudio
> >>> >> User of pt.wiki
> >>> >> Em 2 de março de 2011 14:38, Carolina Rossini
> >>> >> <carolrossiniatwiki(a)gmail.com> escreveu:
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> OIe, pessoal
> >>> >>> olhem que interessante esses dados sobre uso da Wikipedia no Brasil
> >>> por
> >>> >>> estado
> >>> >>> "The first column is the region name in Brazil, the second column
> is
> >>> the
> >>> >>> percentage of views from Brazil that region had in a typical week,
> so
> >>> for
> >>> >>> example Minas Gerais had 8% of all views from Brazil. The next
> >>> column is
> >>> >>> the edits to views ratio...it's not a meaningful number other than
> it
> >>> gives
> >>> >>> us an idea of where most people are trying to edit from, so in this
> >>> case Rio
> >>> >>> Grande do Sul has the highest concentration of editors per readers.
> >>> The
> >>> >>> final column is the number of successful edits by region, or the
> >>> percentage
> >>> >>> of edits made in a given area that are successful (ie the user
> didn't
> >>> just
> >>> >>> click "edit" then wander off). Again, not a useful number except
> for
> >>> >>> comparison, and again, we see Rio Grande do Sul has the highest
> >>> >>> concentration of successful edits."
> >>> >>> fiquei surpresa com Mato Grosso e "esperava mais" de Sao Paulo..
> >>> >>> comentarios?
> >>> >>> bjs
> >>> >>> Carol
> >>> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> >>> WikimediaBR-l mailing list
> >>> >>> WikimediaBR-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
> >>> >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediabr-l
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>
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Carol, sobre colocar na wikipédia, a estruturaçåo do programa no Brasil está
com meio caminho
andado<http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipédia:Embaixadores_de_Campus>.
A discussão na Esplanada<http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipédia:Esplanada/anúncios#Programa_de_Embai…>foi
iniciada. Quanto à página fixa na WMBR, acho que o mutirão
Universidades <http://br.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universidades> supre isso.
Aliás, se tiver oportunidade, comente com o Frank isso, vez que tivemos uma
reunião onde conversamos sobre o papel dos mutirões, em janeiro, dias após o
the-train-the-trainer event.
Abs
Em 23 de fevereiro de 2011 13:38, Carolina Rossini <
carolrossiniatwiki(a)gmail.com> escreveu:
> Oi, Nevio
>
> ja estao estruturando um programa para o mundo
>
> a Jessie esta envolvida nisso
>
> sobre onde colocar na wikiedia, por isso que sugeri colocar como anuncio na
> esplanada e, de repente, com pagina fixa na wmbr
>
> bjs
>
> 2011/2/23 nevio carlos de alarcão <nevinhoalarcao(a)gmail.com>
>
> Carol, obrigado pelo interesse. De início, sugiro entrar em contato com o administrador
>> Gunnex <http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usuário_Discussão:Gunnex> para
>> explicar que não se trata de um ensaio (ele acrescentou a predef
>> {{ensaio}}<http://pt.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipédia%3AEmbaixadores&action=h…>,
>> mas sim de um programa da WMF. Vou acabar de traduzir essa primeira página e
>> divulgar na Esplanada. Eu posso fazê-lo mas um terceiro é mais eficaz. Seria
>> legal também se houvesse apoio da WMF - você, como conultora do Global South
>> - para um esforço generalizado para divulgação/implementação da Public
>> Policy Initiative e do Ambassadors Program.
>> Abs
>> Em 22 de fevereiro de 2011 22:25, Carolina Rossini <
>> carolrossiniatwiki(a)gmail.com> escreveu:
>>
>> Nevio
>>>
>>> se vc entra na wikipedia-pt pela home, vc veh algum anuncio sobre esse
>>> esforco? seria legal ter um link por la...ou na Esplanada
>>>
>>> o que sugere?
>>>
>>> 2011/2/22 nevio carlos de alarcão <nevinhoalarcao(a)gmail.com>
>>>
>>>> Caros, saiu um recurso muito útil para explicar como funcionam as
>>>> páginas de discussão na wikipédia. Está em inglês, alguém sabe como podemos
>>>> traduzir? Mesmo em inglês acredito que dá pra usar, dando pausa e
>>>> explicando...
>>>> Pode ser visto aqui.<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Wikipedia_basics_-_Talk_pages.ogv>
>>>>
>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Wikipedia_basics_-_Talk_pages.ogv>E
>>>> quem puder ajudar na tradução...
>>>> http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipédia:Embaixadores
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>>
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>>
>>
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>>
>
>
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Frank Schulenburg é o líder do "Public Outreach" da Wikimedia Foundation.
Abaixo, Schulenburg fala do seu trabalho e da sua visão sobre a relação da
Wikimedia e Academia.
*Como líder do projeto na WMF, que tipo de programas vocês vislumbram?*
FS: Meu foco é aumentar a participação e o entendimento da Wikipédia. Nós
estamos atualmente trabalhando em três principais projetos:
(1) O “Bookshelf” Project para criar um conjunto de materiais educacionais
para os novos contribuidores. Desde 2009 nós produzimos material impresse,
online e vídeos que explicam a cultura da wikipédia, as regras, políticas,
tudo para ajudar os novatos a fazer as 100 primeiras edições.
(2) Uma iniciativa de divulgação (the Public Policy Initiative) para
institucionalizar a utilização da wikipédia como ferramenta de aprendizagem
na educação superior. Como parte dessa iniciativa, nós treinamos
Embaixadores de Campus, que ajudam professores e estudantes a usar a
wikipédia em sala de aula.
(3) Melhorar o processo de criar uma conta na Wikipédia. Nós pensamos que
criar uma conta é um momento crucial no ciclo de vida do editor da wikipédia
e estamos buscando tonar o processo mais fácil, dando aos novatos mais ajuda
e suporte.
*The Public Policy Initiative is of particular interest to academia, in that
it addresses the role of Wikipedia in higher education. How does this
program work and what are Wikimedia’s aims with this type of outreach?*
FS: The Public Policy Initiative is a pilot project that the Wikimedia
Foundation is running during the 2010–11 academic year. Professors at public
policy programs in universities in the United States are participating in
our initiative by asking their students to improve articles on the
English-language Wikipedia as part of the curriculum. The Foundation is
providing professors support in the form of lesson plans and coordination
with the community to provide Wikipedia Ambassadors, who are serving as
mentors for the first-time Wikipedians.
We know that the use of Wikipedia as a teaching tool in university courses
offers a number of opportunities for students. They improve their writing
skills, gain a deeper understanding of media literacy, learn how to work
collaboratively, and interact with readers and writers in real-time. We
learned that students are much more motivated if they write for a global
audience on Wikipedia compared to the traditional “throw-away assignments.”
These factors make it very attractive for professors to explore using
Wikipedia as a teaching tool.
Our vision is to create a world where every single person has access to the
sum of all human knowledge. We see the use of Wikipedia as a teaching tool
as an important step toward making this vision come true. Students make
great contributors to Wikipedia because they’re immersed in a culture of
learning, so sharing that knowledge with the world is a logical next step.
*Are there any plans to extend the Public Policy Initiative into other areas
of study, such as the biomedical sciences?*
FS: The Public Policy Initiative represents the first time the Wikimedia
Foundation has pushed to seed a community of contributors within higher
education on a larger scale. Our first results are very promising, as
professors across disciplines, universities, and countries have expressed
interest in using Wikipedia as a teaching tool. While we are working only
with U.S.-based public policy programs during the pilot program, we’re
continually seeking opportunities to engage professors, students, and
volunteers in other parts of the world and in other topic areas.
At the end of our pilot in September 2011, we will open the program for
professors of other topic areas. Our goal is to institutionalize the use of
Wikipedia as a teaching tool in higher education across all academic
disciplines.
*When developing outreach programs, how do you envision the ideal role of
Wikipedia in academics?*
FS: This goes back to the question about the nature of Wikipedia. Wikipedia
is a project to create a free encyclopedia. It is not a place to publish
original research. All information on Wikipedia has to be based on
verifiable information that has previously been published by a reliable
source. Whenever we talk to students, we say that Wikipedia is a good
starting point for their research, but it should never be the end point. You
shouldn’t cite Wikipedia, but nor should you cite Encyclopedia Britannica.
We believe that media literacy is a key skill for students in the 21st
century, particularly with regards to online resources. Students should be
able to look at a Wikipedia article or a blog post or a news article and
judge whether or not it’s a valid source of information. With a Wikipedia
article, for example, students should look for a lot of citations to sources
like books, scholarly journals, and major news sources – if the article
doesn’t have many citations or all of the citations are to the same source,
the student should look elsewhere for sources (and come back and improve the
Wikipedia article!).
For academics, Wikipedia offers a great opportunity to improve the publicly
available information about their field. More than 400 million people use
Wikipedia every month. If your goal is to let people share your knowledge
about a specific topic, then Wikipedia is a great point to reach out to a
broad audience.
*Some hesitation in using Wikipedia stems from uncertainty about the editing
process-- while most articles are open to editing by any user, some are
subject to higher regulation like the “pending changes” system. Can you
provide a summary of the current editing system and guidelines?*
FS: Wikipedia was founded on radically open collaboration. Pick an article
you know something about, and the “edit” link at the top allows you to make
an instant change to the page. This open policy to editing has allowed
impressive growth and responsiveness.
In 2009, the Wikipedia community agreed to a trial run which entailed
installing a software extension called “pending changes”. Previously, a very
limited number of high profile articles subject to ongoing vandalism were
locked. When the pending changes feature is enabled for an article, edits
are possible but they will not be visible to the general public until an
established editor flags the article as free of vandalism. The pending
changes feature replaced article locking with a lighter form of protection.
This actually opened Wikipedia further by allowing new and unregistered
users to suggest changes where they could not before. Aside from these few
articles with the pending changes featured applied, articles are open for
editing by any user.
*For the most part, academia is asking what Wikipedia can do for them. But
much of the growth of Wikipedia is dependent on their contribution. Do you
have suggestions for what academics can do to help improve Wikipedia?*
FS: For academics, Wikipedia offers a great opportunity to improve the
publicly available information about their field. More than 400 million
people use Wikipedia every month. If your goal is to let people share your
knowledge about a specific topic, then Wikipedia is a great point to reach
out to a broad audience. I think that scientists and educators can help
Wikipedia most if they participate in the existing review processes and if
they use Wikipedia as a teaching tool in their classes.
There are many ways you can help improving Wikipedia. If you find an error,
just click on the edit button on top of the page and fix it. If you want to
leave a note, go to the talk page of an article. If you have more time, go
to Wikipedia’s good article nominations page (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Good_article_nominations) and
featured articles candidates page (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates) and look
for articles in your specific field of expertise. Also, ask your students to
improve Wikipedia articles, instead of assigning a traditional term paper.
Your students will be much more motivated as they are writing for a global
audience. The better the articles in your field of expertise get, the more
they attract readers – and among them maybe the next generation of smart
students that will be eager to learn more about your research.
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interessante!
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From: Peter Suber <peter.suber(a)gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 10:31 AM
Subject: [BOAI] Can wikis transform medical publishing?
To: SOAF post <SPARC-OAForum(a)arl.org>, BOAI Forum post <
boai-forum(a)ecs.soton.ac.uk>
[Forwarding from Open Medicine. --Peter Suber.]
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Can wikis transform medical publishing?
Open Medicine explores the use of a wiki to update and improve
peer-reviewed systematic reviews.
OTTAWA, Tuesday, March 1—Today, Open Medicine (openmedicine.ca) is
pleased to announce the publication of a wiki version of a new
systematic review of second-line diabetes drugs. To the best of our
knowledge, Open Medicine is the only peer-reviewed medical journal using
wikis as a publishing platform. “Knowledge is dynamic and a wiki is a
publishing tool that truly reflects that,” says Anita Palepu, MD, editor
of Open Medicine. “Our hope is that this manuscript will evolve as our
knowledge evolves and, ultimately, be improved by contributions directly
from our readers to our authors.”
The systematic review is authored by a team of researchers affiliated
with the Canadian Agency for Drugs and Technologies in Health (CADTH;
cadth.ca). It examines the safety and efficacy of second-line type 2
diabetes drugs in patients who cannot achieve optimal control of their
blood sugar using metformin, a first-line treatment, alone. “CADTH is
always looking for innovative ways to share its products with customers.
This is an innovative, collaborative way for readers to not only comment
but contribute to our work using Wiki technology,” says Jane
Farquharson, acting vice-president, Programs, at CADTH.
According to the Canadian Diabetes Association, nine million Canadians
live with diabetes or prediabetes. By 2020, it is estimated that
diabetes will cost the healthcare system $16.9 billion per year.
Therefore, a clinician’s choice of second-line therapies has important
implications for Canadians. “Given the prevalence of diabetes and
limited dollars in health care budgets, this work is important to
examine the effectiveness of these therapies not only from a cost
perspective but also comparing them with others available to ensure
maximum benefit for the patient,“ says Farquharson.
Prior to publication as a wiki, this systematic review was peer-reviewed
to ensure it satisfied Open Medicine’s editorial standards. Access to
the wiki version will not be limited to health experts, but readers must
register, state their affiliations and complete a competing-interests
statement before they can contribute. Changes will be monitored by the
journal’s staff and substantive edits will be brought to the attention
of the review authors.
Systematic reviews can become rapidly outdated as new research is
published. Providing authors and readers with an updated document offers
several advantages, yet biomedical publishers have rarely done so. The
advantages include:
1) Changes to a wiki are publicly available as soon as they are made,
2) Wikis create a centralized document for easy editing,
3) Readers can track the changes that have been made to a document,
provided a form of post-publication peer-review;
For a more thorough discussion of the potential role of wikis in
biomedical publishing, see “Medical research and social media: Can wikis
be used as a publishing platform in medicine?” an editorial by the
editors at Open Medicine published in 2009 when the journal first
piloted a wiki.
Citation: McIntosh, B., Cameron, C., Singh, S.R., Yu, C., Ahuja, T.,
Welton, N.J., and Dahl, M. (2011) Second-line therapy in patients with
type 2 diabetes inadequately controlled with metformin monotherapy: a
systematic review and mixed-treatment comparison meta-analysis Open Med
5(1):e35-48
To access the wiki version of this article, visit:
http://livewiki.openmedicine.ca
About Open Medicine
Open Medicine is a peer-reviewed, independent, open-access general
medical journal published in Canada. It makes original medical research,
as well as reviews, commentaries and articles on practice, policy and
ethics available freely and immediately to everyone over the Internet.
It is a not-for-profit organization.
About CADTH
The Canadian Agency for Drugs and Technologies in Health (CADTH) is an
independent, not-for-profit agency funded by Canadian federal,
provincial, and territorial governments to provide credible, impartial
advice and evidence-based information about the effectiveness of drugs
and other health technologies to Canadian health care decision makers.
For more information, contact:
Anita Palepu
Editor, Open Medicine
604-682-2344 ext. 63194
apalepu(a)openmedicine.ca
Tarek Loubani
Associate Editor, Open Medicine
519-488-6475
tarek(a)tarek.org
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