For some reason I am listed as a moderator on this mailing list. I do read it, but I seldom have time to do moderation tasks. If there is another moderator, perhaps he or she could remove me from moderation? If there is no other moderator, perhaps we need one?

I already moderate the WikiSym wiki research list, which is equally low traffic, so I can offer to take this one on too. --Dirk

Hi Cormac, hi everbody I am new to this list and would appreciate sharing ideas / being part of such a research community. As far as I see there are allready several wikis that try to collect persons involved in research: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedistik and projects: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research/Research_Projects Greetings Marc Schwenzer On 06.02.2008, at 10:29, Cormac Lawler wrote: On Feb 5, 2008 10:56 PM, Dirk Riehle &lt;dirk(a)riehle.org&gt; wrote: I'd kinda like this list to be slightly more active - currently it's a bit more of an announce list. I'd like to develop a community of researchers who can share ideas, experiences, critiques etc., but I wonder if a mailing list is the best way though. The obvious question arises: how about a wiki? I'd like to offer Wikiversity [1] as a place where people interested could work and see what other people are working on - not replacing this list but augmenting it. Though if anyone has other ideas for a suitable medium or space, I'd love to hear them... Cheers, Cormac [1] English Wikiversity: <http://en.wikiversity.org> ; Multilingual portal <http://www.wikiversity.org> _______________________________________________ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l

phoebe ayers wrote: About a year ago I have collected most of Wikipedia related research at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_in_academic_studies but since than few have updated the page. In the end, it is a community resource just as any wiki is: if nobody wants to do it, we will not have such a database. It's that simple. So I invite everyone to contribute to that page; being on Wikipedia is has the known set of advantages - it benefits from Wikipedia fame and snowball effect (can you name other wiki research databases off the top of your head?), it will never disappear, we all (should) know how to add to it, it is watched over by a significant community, etc.

I think the aclwiki has potential to cover papers and software related to Wiki and science.

Hello all, I don't know if this has been mentioned already, but there is a mailing list about wiki research at large (not just wikipedia research). wiki-research(a)wikisym.org

thanks Alain! Do you think the two lists overlap much, though? Though this list is titled 'Research into Wikimedia content and communities' there's a lot of things applicable to non-Wikimedia research; and by extension much wiki research focuses on Wikipedia et al :)

list about wiki research at large (not just wikipedia research). Well, one reason the Wiki Symposium exists is because there is much wiki stuff (research, practice, standards, etc.) outside the Wikimedia scope! I think some overlap is natural as Wikimedia issues are wiki issues too. However, unless you explicitly change the scope of this list to be generally about wikis and not just Wikimedia related, I'd keep the two wiki research lists separate.

Thanks Felipe and Marc, Meta has been a useful resource to a point - however, the only actual research project that it generated, [[m:General User Survey]], was never actually realised. Apart from this, it served as an organising space for the [[m:Wikimedia Research Network]], and [[m:Research]] was mostly used for researchers to add their name to the list with a brief description of their research. But I never felt a genuine community of researchers there (apart from the short-lived WRN) - and this is always what I have hoped for. This would be more than a knowledge-share space to me - it would be a place for people to form and reformulate questions, to critique one another's work, and possibly develop some collaborative research projects. The case you cite of people coming into Wikimedia with lots of similar questions only reinforces to me that such a space would be useful. However, the knowledge-sharing aspect is also essential, in order to document what is available, and what has been done before - and I'd like to know what other tools you think would be useful/necessary. Finding relevant literature becomes more and more important with the increasing amount of literature being churned out on wikis - this would be facilitated by focused searching of bibliographies, but the human (ie community) element also comes into it. So, it's really more a shared workspace than a knowledge bank that I'm thinking of. I'd be thrilled to start (or continue) work on such a space on Wikiversity if there is some interest from this list. Cormac On Feb 6, 2008 1:58 PM, Felipe Ortega &lt;glimmer_phoenix(a)yahoo.es&gt; wrote: space, possibly based in wiki technology but with many other useful tools. It could integrate many research sources about Wikipedia, currently scattered all over the web: sources (maybe, linked with Citeulike lists...). Wikipedia. data sources. Wikimedia admins are (almost always) too busy to attend researchers' petititons. It's not rare to spend at least 3 months to obtain certain information sources, due to both contact and agreement delays. It's also frequent that certain common petitions show up again over time. With a central point to find resources, this problem would be mitigated, at least to some an extent point. important subtopics: research-metrics, research-semantics, research-authoring... thing. more of an announce list. I'd like to develop a community of researchers who can share ideas, experiences, critiques etc., but I wonder if a mailing list is the best way though. The obvious question arises: how about a wiki? I'd like to offer Wikiversity [1] as a place where people interested could work and see what other people are working on - not replacing this list but augmenting it. Though if anyone has other ideas for a suitable medium or space, I'd love to hear them... <http://www.wikiversity.org> _______________________________________________ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l