Re: [Wiki-research-l] looking for paper on the "new editorexperience"

Thanks to all of you who replied to me on and off-list. This is indeed the paper I was looking for! Aaron, your research looked at new editors. Have you thought about undertaking a similar study about loss of seasoned editors (the beyond-newbie phase)? I note that there are a number of hypotheses on this topic http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Editor_Retention#Reasons_ editors_leave but not much evidence to provide any guidance. There was a survey sent to "formerly active" editors (can't find the URL) which gathered some data which indicated that, apart from personal reasons, seasoned editors primarily left because of "community issues", e.g. the behaviour of other editors. So I was wondering if the use of edit logs, user contributions, etc could be used (quantitatively or qualitatively) to provide insights into patterns of behaviour (of the editor or others interacting with that editor via contributions or talk pages etc) that might provide clues into the departure of seasoned editors and/or early warning signs of someone "about to walk". Kerry _____ From: wiki-research-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wiki-research-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Aaron Halfaker Sent: Thursday, 3 January 2013 1:36 PM To: Research into Wikimedia content and communities Subject: Re: [Wiki-research-l] looking for paper on the "new editorexperience" I think you're talking about a paper that I just finished editing American Behavioral Scientist: The Rise and Decline of an Open Collaboration Community: How Wikipedia's reaction to sudden popularity is causing its decline Summary of findings (and free to download pre-print): http://www-users.cs.umn.edu/~halfak/publications/The_Rise_and_Decline/ Official listing: http://abs.sagepub.com/content/early/2012/12/26/0002764212469365 For quick reference, here's my TL;DR: To deal with the massive influx of new editors between 2004 and 2007, Wikipedians built automated quality control tools and solidified their rules of governance. These reasonable and effective strategies for maintaining the quality of the encyclopedia have come at the cost of decreased retention of desirable newcomers. 1. The decline represents a change in the rate of retention of desirable, good-faith newcomers. * The proportion of newcomers that edit in good-faith has not changed since 2006. * These desirable newcomers are more likely to have their work rejected since 2007. * This increased rejection predicts the observed decline in retention. 2. Semi-autonomous vandal fighting tools (like Huggle <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Huggle> ) are partially at fault. * An increasing proportion of desirable newcomers are having their work rejected by automated tools. * These automated reverts exacerbate the predicted negative effects of rejection on retention. * Users of Huggle tend to not engage in the best practices <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:BRD> for discussing the reverts they perform. 3. New users are being pushed out of policy articulation. * The formalized process for vetting new policies and changes to policies ensures that newcomers' edits do not survive. * Both newcomers and experienced editors are moving increasingly toward less formal <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:ESSAYS> spaces. -Aaron On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 8:47 PM, Everton Zanella Alvarenga &lt;ezalvarenga(a)wikimedia.org&gt; wrote: Hi, I don't know the article, but check if searching here helps http://www.mail-archive.com/wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org/ http://wikimedia.7.n6.nabble.com/WikiMedia-Research-f1477409.html I don't know why I cannot use google.com with the parameter "site:" for this mailing list archive <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l>. Tom On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 10:48 PM, Kerry Raymond &lt;kerry.raymond(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: was retention the this -- Everton Zanella Alvarenga (also Tom) "A life spent making mistakes is not only more honorable, but more useful than a life spent doing nothing." _______________________________________________ Wiki-research-l mailing list Wiki-research-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l