I looked at editors of all experience in earlier work, but found the
strongest effects for new editors (
).
My primary motivation was to understand the editor decline and other work
that found out the decline represents the declining retention of new
editors, not the experienced
).
For anyone who is considering looking into the retention of experienced
editors, I highly recommend looking into the RfA process and dropping a
note to
rs>.
He has a lot of insight into the process and how some problems could have
long term effects on the pool of administrators and the motivation/culture
of the top 0.1% of editors.
-Aaron
On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 11:45 PM, Kerry Raymond <kerry.raymond(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
Thanks to all of you who replied to me on and
off-list. This is indeed
the paper I was looking for!****
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Aaron, your research looked at new editors. Have you thought about
undertaking a similar study about loss of seasoned editors (the
beyond-newbie phase)? I note that there are a number of hypotheses on this
topic****
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Editor_Retention#Reasons…
****
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but not much evidence to provide any guidance. There was a survey sent to
“formerly active” editors (can’t find the URL) which gathered some data
which indicated that, apart from personal reasons, seasoned editors
primarily left because of “community issues”, e.g. the behaviour of other
editors. So I was wondering if the use of edit logs, user contributions,
etc could be used (quantitatively or qualitatively) to provide insights
into patterns of behaviour (of the editor or others interacting with that
editor via contributions or talk pages etc) that might provide clues into
the departure of seasoned editors and/or early warning signs of someone
“about to walk”.****
** **
Kerry****
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*From:* wiki-research-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:
wiki-research-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *Aaron Halfaker
*Sent:* Thursday, 3 January 2013 1:36 PM
*To:* Research into Wikimedia content and communities
*Subject:* Re: [Wiki-research-l] looking for paper on the "new
editorexperience"****
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I think you're talking about a paper that I just finished editing American
Behavioral Scientist: *The Rise and Decline of an Open Collaboration
Community: How Wikipedia's reaction to sudden popularity is causing its
decline*****
** **
Summary of findings (and free to download pre-print):
http://www-users.cs.umn.edu/~halfak/publications/The_Rise_and_Decline/****
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Official listing:
http://abs.sagepub.com/content/early/2012/12/26/0002764212469365****
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For quick reference, here's my *TL;DR: *****
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To deal with the massive influx of new editors between 2004 and 2007,
Wikipedians built automated quality control tools and solidified their
rules of governance. These reasonable and effective strategies for
maintaining the quality of the encyclopedia have come at the cost of
decreased retention of desirable newcomers.****
1. The decline represents a change in the rate of retention of
desirable, *good-faith* newcomers.****
- The proportion of newcomers that edit in good-faith has not changed
since 2006.****
- These desirable newcomers are more likely to have their work
rejected since 2007.****
- This increased rejection predicts the observed decline in
retention.****
1. Semi-autonomous vandal fighting tools (like
Huggle<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Huggle>)
are partially at fault.****
- An increasing proportion of desirable newcomers are having their
work rejected by automated tools.****
- These automated reverts exacerbate the predicted negative effects
of rejection on retention.****
- Users of Huggle tend to not engage in the best
practices<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:BRD> for
discussing the reverts they perform.****
1. New users are being pushed out of policy articulation.****
- The formalized process for vetting new policies and changes to
policies ensures that newcomers' edits do not survive.****
- Both newcomers and experienced editors are moving increasingly
toward less formal spaces <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:ESSAYS>.*
***
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-Aaron****
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On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 8:47 PM, Everton Zanella Alvarenga <
ezalvarenga(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:****
Hi,
I don't know the article, but check if searching here helps
http://www.mail-archive.com/wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org/
http://wikimedia.7.n6.nabble.com/WikiMedia-Research-f1477409.html
I don't know why I cannot use
google.com with the parameter "site:"
for this mailing list archive
<https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l>.
Tom****
On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 10:48 PM, Kerry Raymond <kerry.raymond(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
In the past few months, I read a paper (or a
draft paper?) that I think
was
shared on this mailing list. Unfortunately I seem
to have lost both the
paper and the email (job change), so I would be grateful if anyone could
send me the paper or a link or whatever.
IIRC, the paper was looking at editor retention, particularly the
retention
of new editors. I think there were about 8
hypotheses given and some
experiments conducted to test these. The one I remember most clearly was
the
finding that new good-faith editors were highly
likely to see their
contributions deleted, by either bots or more experienced editors, and
this
was likely to be de-motivating for them.
If anyone can help with this, it would be much appreciated.
Kerry
****
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