I'm just worried it will be inconsistent and
confusing. Some pages will have
an edit tab and some won't, when both are editable. Some people may assume
they can't edit pages that don't have an edit tab then. Not to mention it's
not really correct to say one 'edits' the stable version, and the
templates/images can be quite different then what they were supposedly
editing.
Having a tab like 'draft (editable)' or something for the short UI might be
better. It would consistently convey that users can edit, and even if the
stable version is a few revs behind. Sighted versions should scale, but
there may be some small edits/spelling corrections/tweaks that are pending
review, even if it's just 1-3 edits.
-Aaron Schulz
From: "P. Birken"
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Subject: Re: [Wikiquality-l] Issues with FlaggedRevs
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 21:20:46 +0200
Yes, it is not clear wether this will scale or not. I am reasonably
sure that it will on de, but of course I cannot be certain. But,
what's your reason to remove the editbutton, when the current version
is the sighted one?
Best wishes,
Philipp
2007/9/3, Aaron Schulz <jschulz_4587(a)msn.com>om>:
I am not sure the top revision will be sighted
most of the time. So we
could
still see many pages with no 'edit' tab.
In the standard UI, editing is
conveyed in the message. For the .de one, something is needed to make it
clear that you can edit. Maybe a 'draft' tab would help for these cases?
-Aaron Schulz
>From: "P. Birken" <pbirken(a)gmail.com>
>Reply-To: Wikimedia Quality Discussions
<wikiquality-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
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Subject: Re: [Wikiquality-l] Issues with FlaggedRevs
Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 18:32:58 +0200
Hiho,
I have one minor and two major points:
i) Minor: When browsing through the version history, I think the
status of that version should show.
ii) Major: Currently, when there is a quality version, this overrides
a younger sighted version. This is not as it was planned and since
quality versions do not scale, this would lead to readers seeing
usually rather outdated versions of articles. I think that the value
of quality versions is mostly as a tool of going systematically
through our article base and for those who want to reuse our content.
It might be, that for example WikiSource or WikiNews might find the
current setting useful, but I don't think that this is a good idea for
Wikipedia.
iii) Major: When the current version is sighted, an IP still does not
see the edit button. This is a major restriction for IPs and is
factually something like "IPs cannot edit here anymore". While not
fundamentally opposed to this, this is a very deep topic and it is in
my opinion not this extension that should answer this. Either we do
not want IPs to edit, than we should shut them down, but please not
via a backdoor from an extension that is about different things. So,
please make it so that IPs see an edit button when the current version
is sighted.
Bye,
Philipp
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