[Wikipedia-l] Cheating on logo voting

[Anthere]

> Guillaume-
>
> > I agree and I think we need more time to well
organize this second
round.
> Not really. We have more than a week until we start.



I don't think a week is enough to clear all discussion
and evaluate all
solutions, but let's try.


> > Rules for the second round are already decided (in
details, not 
only
vote
> > system) ?
>
> For the most part, yes. I don't think there will be
any major 
changes. I
> have just set the deadline for the method to Sep 12
so there will be 
three
> days of time to translate the voting instructions.



I only see a "logo vote system" vote. Who decide the
other points?

Even if we have to use Average method (not my favorite
method) for 
that, I
think we must create pages to vote on:

* Rules for submission

* Deadlines (too short imho)

* Logo vote method (pending...)

* Cheat handling

For submission I think we have better to have one main
page with only 
the
author favorite logo (1 logo) plus a link to one page
per logo with all
variants.



> > Do we vote for a concept or for a final logo ?
>
> You vote for a final logo. There may be a need to
make a transparent
> version or a larger one, but no significant changes
to the winning 
logo
> will be made without clear consensus.



If we vote for a final logo we need a lot of variant,
isn't it?

We can like a logo concept but prefer a different
color, font text,
contrast, frame style, etc.

For example, I see a lot of interesting logos variants
in the Paullus 
page
(made by him?) and I think it may be great if we can
vote for all those
variants (and new ones).

Imho, encourage wikipedians to propose new logos
variants, is a better 
way
to get the logo witch satisfy the most people. Sure,
finalists' authors 
must
select themselves witch logos are in accord with there
own concept.



> > In other term do we have for
> > each variant of a logo or just for a concept ?
>
> You vote on each variant.



This must avoid FPTP method that disfavor logo with
the more variants.



> > What is the solutions to reduce vote cheating ?
>
> You need a user page on Meta that points to an
account with at least 
10
> legitimate edits.



Who will check each user to see if (s)he done at least
10 edits ? What 
about
people who contribute anonymously ?



I forgot an important question :

- Why are you so hurried with deadlines !?

Aoineko

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Rulezzzzzzz Aoi ;-)

Merci sincèrement.

Anthere


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