[Wikipedia-l] what people I know have to say about anglicization

Jimmy Wales jwales at bomis.com
Mon Nov 25 19:56:31 UTC 2002


Bridget [name omitted for privacy reasons] wrote:
> MarderIII: should people pronounce the names of foreign places in the foreign manner?
> Bakunin 18: Er, as they are pronounced by their populations?
> MarderIII: yes
> Bakunin 18: I think so
> MarderIII: wikipedia banned me over that question

This is simply untrue.

> MarderIII: i really fucking hate people right now

This may be true, but isn't helpful.  When you let go of your anger, you will be
better able to think clearly about how to achieve the things that you want to
achieve.

> Bakunin 18: You can't switch IPs?
> MarderIII: i can 
> MarderIII: i already did it once
> MarderIII: i found some good info on the Taino
> MarderIII: and so i added it
> MarderIII: and then some troll went and deleted it because I was banned and not allowed to contribute
> Bakunin 18: That's... incredibly stupid.
> MarderIII: they are also threatning to ban other people who don't think I was so uncontrollab
> MarderIII: e
> Bakunin 18: Is there not some head admin you can talk to?
> MarderIII: he is very mad at me

I am not mad at anyone.  I am disappointed that Lir has not recognized
that the problem is not even remotely related to legitimate
disagreements about how to pronounce foreign words.  The problem is
*directly* related to misrepresenting why he/she was banned.

Pretending that you were banned over pronunciation, after our long
conversations, is not really fair.

If you ask your friends for input into this situation, and you tell
them things that are not true, then you will get advice that is
inaccurate.  If you tell them that you were banned for your views on
anglicization, when you were actually banned for being an obnoxious
pest who calls people racist for no reason, they will be unable to
tell you "Stop being an obnoxious pest... present your views with
reason and good will, and others will agree or disagree with some
details, but you can likely achieve your significant goals to a
significant extent."

--Jimbo



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