[Wikipedia-l] Wikipedia teamwork

Larry Sanger lsanger at nupedia.com
Wed Aug 15 21:29:18 UTC 2001


Thanks very much, Jason!

Larry

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jason Richey" <jasonr at bomis.com>
To: <wikipedia-l at nupedia.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 2:44 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [Wikipedia-l] Wikipedia teamwork


> There is now a tarball of each of the wiki sites that are running as
> "Wikipedia".  Go to the homepage http://www.wikipedia.com to find the
> link, or go to the downloads directly at
> http://www.wikipedia.com/tarballs.  These are just tarballs of the
> entire directory that the sites are served from.
> 
> Jason
> 
> sanger1 at nupedia.com wrote:
> 
> > Bryce (just realized that I had replied just to you rather than the 
> > list): I sympathize, but posting on this list frankly isn't going to 
> > get anything done.  I do only a little work directly on the server; 
> > Jason's the man who will have to do this, if this or something like 
> > it is what we'll end up doing, exactly.  What Jason might not know 
> > (so, I've cc'd him) is how seriously you all take this.  I certainly 
> > would like to see Wikipedia's content easily useable--it will get a 
> > lot of new links back to Wikipedia and it will indeed make the 
> > project more credible, as someone very correctly said.  I have wanted 
> > this to be done for months, but, well--our programmers are very busy 
> > with projects that actually make money.  :-/
> > 
> > Larry
> > 
> > You Wrote:
> > >I think what people are trying to politely say is that you may be in
> > >violation of your license...
> > >
> > >My suggestion to get around this with a minimum of time expended 
> > would
> > >be to set up a cron job to tarball the wiki databases once a week.
> > >
> > >Login as www-data or nobody or root or whomever
> > >$ crontab -e
> > >0 5 * * 0 /usr/local/bin/tarball_wiki  # Weekly Sunday 5am tarball
> > >
> > >
> > >#!/bin/sh
> > >## tarball_wiki script
> > >tar cf /tmp/wiki.tar /home/www-data/wiki_db /home/www-data/cgi-
> > bin/wiki.pl
> > >gzip /tmp/wiki.tar
> > >rm -f /home/www-data/html/wiki.tar.gz
> > >mv /home/www-data/html/wiki.tar.gz /home/www-data/html/wiki-
> > prev.tar.gz
> > >mv /tmp/wiki.tar /home/www-data/html/wiki.tar.gz
> > >
> > >
> > >This will keep the current plus previous week's tarball.
> > >Obviously, you'll have to fiddle the paths to match however your 
> > system
> > >is organized.  You might need to add some chmod/chown commands if 
> > you do
> > >this as a user other than the web user.
> > >
> > >Anyway, IANAL, but I think this little script would get you off the 
> > hook
> > >regarding the transparency issue.  
> > >
> > >Bryce
> > >
> > >On Wed, 15 Aug 2001 sanger1 at nupedia.com wrote:
> > >> I agree completely as well.  You all must realize, though, that 
> > the 
> > >> amount of (expensive) paid programming labor Bomis can devote to 
> > >> useful and even essential features like this is less than we would 
> > >> all like.  It would be ideal if some programmers would step up to 
> > the 
> > >> plate and actually help bring some of these proposals into being.  
> > I 
> > >> for one would be absolutely delighted.
> > >> 
> > >> Larry
> > >> 
> > >> You Wrote:
> > >> >On Tue, Aug 14, 2001 at 09:56:47AM +0200, Robert Bihlmeyer wrote:
> > >> >> Jan Hidders <hidders at win.tue.nl> writes:
> > >> >> 
> > >> >> > Because the GFDL allows you to download everything and start 
> > >> your own
> > >> >> > server.
> > >> >> 
> > >> >> Well the GFDL also wants transparent copy to be easily 
> > available. I
> > >> >> don't consider spidering wikipedia to be an option open to 
> > the "man
> > >> >> from the street".
> > >> >
> > >> >FWIW I certainly agree with that, and there should certainly be 
> > an 
> > >> easy
> > >> >way to download the complete Wikipedia. So you can also add 
> > >> my "pretty
> > >> >please" :-)
> > >> >
> > >> >-- Jan Hidders
> > >> >
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