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ue we<br>
have?received?some "negative" critiscm in the past few days.And f=
rom the<br>
continued arguments in this thread,I am inclined to think maybe our critics=
are<br>
right?!<br>
<br>
First,I dont understand the need of the Survey?I mean to what end are we do=
ing<br>
the survey???<br>
I personally would suggest we have some sort of ?"AGM" where we c=
an look back at<br>
our success,mistakes and staff on a more "humane" grounds with th=
e aim of<br>
correcting and building on our success and mistakes not the "virtual&q=
uot; way.<br>
<br>
Plus some questions are very subjective and touch on individuals directly<b=
r>
and?personally?I would rather not critic people behind there back especiall=
y in<br>
print.......<br>
<br>
Happy Easter,<br>
Limoke Oscar,<br>
<a href=3D"http://mayenge.blogspot.com" target=3D"_blank">mayenge.blogspot.=
com</a><br>
Freelancer,<br>
GeoInformatics and GIScience Student<br>
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Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 14:31:57 +0300<br>
From: Limoke Oscar <<a href=3D"mailto:oslimoke at gmail.com">oslimoke at gmail=
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> Oscar avoid being too harsh.Kuwa mpole.<br>
><br>
Lilian,<br>
What do u mean being harsh?<br>
I am sorry if my thoughts and opinions hurt you on a personal level.All I<b=
r>
was raising are my thoughts and opinions and if they hurt you,my sincerest<=
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apologies....<br>
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Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 14:45:02 +0300<br>
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Abbas,<br>
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> I feel demoralized.<br>
><br>
You dont have too,remember the Berlin session on Volunteers?Its hard to<br>
manage them with varied opinion and it gets even harder in the Kenyan<br>
context.Everyone is entitled to his/her opinion and perhaps my opinion was<=
br>
harsh and unpopular that should not mean the whole idea is<br>
bad..Am after-all just one in the Community and the majority matters.<br>
<br>
All I was suggesting is to have a discussion of the same events on a<br>
face-face basis even though thats hard but then that is one of the ways to<=
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get "right opinion" that is from dedicated members.Am afraid agai=
n on this<br>
but you do realize some people may give opinions that are not a true<br>
representation of the state of affairs over the form since they are not<br>
very much dedicated. After-all they will have little implication but if we<=
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have a face-face meetup to discuss the above issue,even if a few<br>
attend,those will give better opinion/critic necessary to better WMKE.<br>
......once again this is my personal point of view and am subject to<br>
critiscm as I am doing too.:P..... in Good Faith of course.<br>
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Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 04:46:15 -0700 (PDT)<br>
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All i mean is, you can be more sensitive than that even when you are puttin=
g<br>
your opinions across. Btw?I respect your thots very much and I hope evryone=
else<br>
does. Just that!<br>
<br>
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________________________________<br>
From: Limoke Oscar <<a href=3D"mailto:oslimoke at gmail.com">oslimoke at gmail=
.com</a>><br>
To: The discussion list for the upcoming Wikimedia Kenya chapter.<br>
<<a href=3D"mailto:wikimediake at lists.wikimedia.org">wikimediake at lists.wi=
kimedia.org</a>><br>
Sent: Thu, April 21, 2011 2:31:57 PM<br>
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Survey<br>
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<br>
<br>
Oscar avoid being too harsh.Kuwa mpole.<br>
Lilian,<br>
What do u mean being harsh??<br>
I am sorry if my thoughts and opinions hurt you on a personal level.All I w=
as<br>
raising are my thoughts and opinions and if they hurt you,my sincerest<br>
apologies....<br>
<br>
><br>
><br>
>?<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
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--<br>
Limoke Oscar,<br>
<a href=3D"http://mayenge.blogspot.com" target=3D"_blank">mayenge.blogspot.=
com</a><br>
Freelancer,<br>
GeoInformatics and GIScience Student<br>
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Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 15:15:32 +0300<br>
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Hi,<br>
in any our daily endeavors, it is quite normal to face criticism. However,<=
br>
the criticism is quite healthy since it helps us discover our weaknesses. M=
y<br>
point - all this is quite normal and healthy and what really matters at thi=
s<br>
point is how we are going to solve the situation at hand. So, Abbas man-up<=
br>
and get this ball rolling your the one in charge. To the rest of us, the<br=
>
survey is the best way at the moment to try and get to know your opinions<b=
r>
about the sensitive issues quickly and effectively. So lets get to business=
<br>
and fill the questionnaire before our next meet-up so that we can have the<=
br>
most contagious issues first on our agenda.<br>
Regarding the 'name thing',it really doesn't matter whether you=
put it or<br>
not. For those who don't feel like putting it you can as well write<br>
"Anonymous." However, it is important for you guys to be as since=
re as<br>
possible when giving your opinions and answers as this is the current tool<=
br>
put in place to collect all your opinions before we can all decide on the<b=
r>
best way forward. However, let us all maintain respect and integrity when<b=
r>
expressing ourselves. Thank you all and lets move forward for we all belong=
<br>
to Wikimedia Kenya.<br>
<br>
PS Maosa: When conducting a survey, the researcher can't avoid knowing =
a<br>
little bit more regarding their respondents. however, it is their<br>
responsibility to ensure such information is not leaked out to the general<=
br>
public or any other party after the survey is done. So at this case, the on=
e<br>
in charge (Researcher) can know the names but has to keep it a secret to<br=
>
him/herself. Looking forward to get some really response from this survey.<=
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