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Tue Mar 15 17:42:23 UTC 2011


on.True we have received some "negative" critiscm in the past few days.And
from the continued arguments in this thread,I am inclined to think maybe our
critics are right?!

 

First,I dont understand the need of the Survey?I mean to what end are we
doing the survey???

I personally would suggest we have some sort of  "AGM" where we can look
back at our success,mistakes and staff on a more "humane" grounds with the
aim of correcting and building on our success and mistakes not the "virtual"
way.

 

Plus some questions are very subjective and touch on individuals directly
and personally I would rather not critic people behind there back especially
in print.......

 

Happy Easter,

Limoke Oscar,

mayenge.blogspot.com
Freelancer,
GeoInformatics and GIScience Student

 


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yous?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>People have the right to change =
their opinion;
people have the right to state their opinion anonymously; people have =
the right
to feel miffed at criticism; people have the right to be sensitive =
&#8230;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Okay, to cut a long story short: =
We&#8217;re
all just humans, so please treat each other accordingly =
</span></font><font
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
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face=3DArial><span
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Finally: I&#8217;d also prefer to =
do this
communication face-to-face but alas, that&#8217;s not the world =
we&#8217;re
living in.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Haya, tusonge =
mbele,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Oliver (aka =
BT)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>PS: I&#8217;ve completed the =
survey!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font =
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wikimediake-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org
[mailto:wikimediake-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org] <b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Abbas Mahmood<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 21 April 2011 =
13:32<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> The discussion list =
for the
upcoming Wikimedia Kenya chapter.<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Wikimedia =
<st1:country-region
w:st=3D"on"><st1:place =
w:st=3D"on">Kenya</st1:place></st1:country-region>] =
Survey</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DTahoma><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>I feel =
demoralized.&nbsp;&nbsp;I
started this survey so that we can see where we are doing well and =
maximise on
that and know where we are poor and learn from our mistakes. However, I =
did not
intend to point fingers of accusation at people who are performing below
average. That is why I said I will not disclose names. That is why, in =
the
survey, I just put a general slot for ''quality of presentations'' =
rather than
''Grace's presentation'' or ''Ting's presentation''. I fail to =
understand how,
for instance, rating quality of presentations as 1 will mean that David =
made a
poor presentation. It merely means that next time, we will all =
collaborate
beforehand and ensure that the presentations to be made are all of the =
desired
quality.<br>
<br>
If you think that this is pointing fingers of accusation behind =
someone's back,
then I'm sorry: I was merely assuming good faith.<br>
<br>
This survey is done online since at an AGM, not all people would attend, =
and
thereby it wouldn't guarantee full participation.<br>
<br>
Critics will always be there. Now it's up to you to live in you own =
bubble and
pretend you don't hear them or listen to them, and react appropriately. =
<br>
<br>
I think this causing more contoversy than expected, and maybe I was =
mistaken to
create this survey in the first place. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 12:50:49 +0300<br>
From: oslimoke at gmail.com<br>
To: wikimediake at lists.wikimedia.org<br>
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia <st1:country-region w:st=3D"on"><st1:place =
w:st=3D"on">Kenya</st1:place></st1:country-region>]
Survey<br>
<br>
Hi Everyone,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>From what I have been reading,I guess I dont =
understand
what is going on.True we have&nbsp;received&nbsp;some =
&quot;negative&quot;
critiscm in the past few days.And from the continued arguments in this =
thread,I
am inclined to think maybe our critics are =
right?!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>First,I dont understand the need of the Survey?I =
mean to
what end are we doing the survey???<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>I personally would suggest we have some sort of
&nbsp;&quot;AGM&quot; where we can look back at our success,mistakes and =
staff
on a more &quot;humane&quot; grounds with the aim of correcting and =
building on
our success and mistakes not the &quot;virtual&quot; =
way.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>Plus some questions are very subjective and touch on
individuals directly and&nbsp;personally&nbsp;I would rather not critic =
people
behind there back especially in =
print.......<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
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font-family:Tahoma'><a href=3D"http://mayenge.blogspot.com" =
target=3D"_blank">mayenge.blogspot.com</a><br>
Freelancer,<br>
GeoInformatics and GIScience Student<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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